Dropping Gimp from the live cd

Martin Sourada martin.sourada at gmail.com
Thu Aug 6 17:43:35 UTC 2009

On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 19:16 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Toshio Kuratomi<a.badger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 08/06/2009 08:26 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> >> On 08/06/2009 05:54 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I know and I am not fighting for OOo inclusion, just showing that we
> >>> don't follow "make the most useful and shiny apps available" logic
> >>> already.
> >>
> >> OOo is so big so it is an exception, is it or *several* other
> >> applications, making the choice easier.
> >>
> >> ...and it can be argued OOo is not "cool", is "useful", you do with it
> >> mostly boring stuff. It is also not integrated well in the desktop and
> >> so on.
> >>
> > And two other arguments, one mine, the other from Jesse:
> >
> > * The two main use OOo apps have replacements that are good and very
> > good (abiword, gnumeric).
> > * OOo, like firefox, is equally promoted on windows.  So it's not a
> > Linux-specific showcase item.
> Well list the linux specific apps than ... most free software tends to
> be multiplatform because if there is interest in porting them they can
> easily be ported.
Well, that certainly is true, but there is a difference between
applications having linux as secondary platform (most non-native-gtk/qt
stuff if we talk about desktop apps) and applications having it as
primary platform (most native-gtk/gtk stuff). Both OOo and FF are
mainstream on Windows, linux is just another market for them, gimp and
others are primary gnu or linux applications, but developed in principle
to be multiplatform, so they work elsewhere as well (or can be easily
ported), although gimp is gaining a significant share on windows as
well ;-)

And yeah, as a member of the design-team, I am sorta sad gimp gets
removed, but it's probably one of the last (if not last) of really
powerful applications (as opposed to rather simplistic apps targeted at
general desktop audience) that has more specific target audience and is
still on the Desktop Spin. Perhaps it would be a good time to rethink
the purpose of Desktop Spin and clearly state which kinds of apps are
desirable to have and which are not.

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