Dropping Gimp from the live cd

[drago01]

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Toshio Kuratomi<a.badger at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/05/2009 07:18 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:12:55AM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
>
>>> If, as mentioned in the original question regarding target audience,
>>> the point of the live cd is something to hand out to people new to
>>> Fedora to show them what Fedora/Linux offers then removing things like
>>> Gimp may be the wrong thing to do.
>>>
>>> The Fedora download page says this about the live cd:
>>>
>>> "This is the latest version of the Fedora Linux operating system
>>> featuring the GNOME desktop. It's everything you need to try out
>>> Fedora—and if you like it, install it right from the desktop!"
>>>
>>> This to me means things like Gimp should stay on the live cd, because
>>> it is one of the features of Fedora/Linux that people may want to try
>>> out.
>>
>> I could substitute quite a lot of random applications for "Gimp" above
>> and that argument would be the same -- which probably means it's not a
>> very strong one.
>
> I don't think Nicu and Gerd are talking so much about random features
> that random users want to try... I think they're talking more about the
> best of breed software and "killer apps" that allow people to see the
> quality of programs written via a free software approach.  In this vein,
> GIMP and firefox are both projects that are showcase pieces.  They show
> people that free software can be quality software that is a valid
> alternative to proprietary offerings from Adobe and Microsoft.
>
>>  The Desktop Live CD has sufficient applications for
>> someone to browse the web; retrieve, read, and send email; create
>> business documents; and view and organize media.  And it has support
>> for searching and later installing additional software.
>>
> This still elludes the question that's being asked.  If the LiveCD's
> target audience is office workers wanting to do things with the livecd,
> then this plus Bill's note that we still have apps on the livecd to do
> basic photo touchups is sufficent.  But for the people wanting to show
> others what Fedora and free software are capable of at conferences and
> shows, there is a desire to show people the best of breed software.

Both of your points mean that we should add openoffice , but we can't
because we decided to ignore newer technologies and stick with the
ancient (CDs).