[fedora-java] [slightly off topic from] Why libswt3-gtk2 isn't split between lib and plugin

[Ray Auge]

Just clarifying this discussion, which is going slightly off topic. As
of the last official release, the Java-GNOME has a supported port of
libgtk-java and libglade-java for Windows.

Please do not talk around them and make assumptions without first
informing yourselves. 

http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/bin/view/Main/WindowsCompilation

This port has been going on for about a year (since the first tested
were conducted successfully). These guys deserve credit for all their
hard work, as do you all.


On Mon, 2005-11-04 at 00:58 -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I think the message was't about the best Java GUI toolkit, but on how to 
> package SWT and apps that depend on them. Nothing prevents the packaging 
> of Java-Gnome and apps that depends on it, and it was done at least by 
> Fedora.
> 
> If everyone would package just the "best" app/library for each category, 
> How would sendmail/postfix and Gnome/KDE users feel?
> 
> But if you don't mind having your app running on Linux only (actually on 
> BSD and other Unixes) Java-Gnome would be a better toolkit. Go see their 
> websites and mailing list archives for specific reaons. :-) Actually, 
> using Java-Gnome is not Unix-only, just nobody did the port for Windows. 
> GTK itself and many apps, like Gimp and Ethereal, run fine under Windows 
> using the GTK port.

> 
> []s, Fernando Lozano
> 
> >On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:14:22PM -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>What about Java-GNOME?
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Java-GNOME is a fine project, but in all honesty, SWT is a 
> >tried-tested-and-true solution. Moreover it gives you cross-platform
> >compatibility to Windows (and like it or not, Windows does
> >matter on the desktop).
> >
> >I don't use many Java apps on the desktop. In fact, I used to
> >*hate* java for desktop app because of Swing (mind you, I do
> >Java for a living :)). And yeah, AWT is a joke nowadays for
> >anything serious, so it's not even worth a mention.
> >
> >Eclipse changed all that for me. It showed me that a Java app
> >can look and feel "native". It's nice. If I needed to do a
> >desktop app and wanted to code it in Java, why pick anything
> >else other than SWT for my toolkit?
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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