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Andrew From overholt at redhat.com Tue Jun 7 20:49:35 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:49:35 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Oprofiling Eclipse startup (x86) In-Reply-To: <20050607203849.GD3287@redhat.com> References: <20050607203849.GD3287@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050607204935.GE3287@redhat.com> * Andrew Overholt [2005-06-07 16:38]: > > http://overholt.ca/eclipsex86startupreports.tar.bz2 I should have mentioned: . each of the first five reports are from individual startup runs (ie. opcontrol --stop; opcontrol --reset after each one) . the final report includes five sequential runs (no oprofile stops in between each) Andrew From meikuanchow01 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 8 03:43:43 2005 From: meikuanchow01 at yahoo.com (Mei Kuan) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:43:43 +0800 Subject: [fedora-java] Helping Malaysian Business Professionals Diversify Effectively Message-ID: <200506080339.j583dewa022913@mx3.redhat.com> Dear Malaysian business professional, How have you been in Malaysia? 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These reports (and > samples) were taken with --no-vmlinux. Please tell me if there's something > else I should be doing. I recently checked in a change to the GCC 4.0 branch that saves over 10k exceptions and related memory allocations during Eclipse startup. This change appeared in today's gcc-4.0.0-11. Is this what you're using? Also, are you using FC4's oprofile, or the one from oprofile cvs? See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157854 Your profiles look a little bit like the bogus ones I reported. AG From aph at redhat.com Wed Jun 8 09:20:30 2005 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:20:30 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] Oprofiling Eclipse startup (x86) In-Reply-To: <1118205755.4811.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050607203849.GD3287@redhat.com> <1118205755.4811.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <17062.47198.302118.598977@zapata.pink> Anthony Green writes: > On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 16:38 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've spent a bit of time doing some more $subj. These reports (and > > samples) were taken with --no-vmlinux. Please tell me if there's something > > else I should be doing. > > I recently checked in a change to the GCC 4.0 branch that saves over 10k > exceptions and related memory allocations during Eclipse startup. > > This change appeared in today's gcc-4.0.0-11. Is this what you're > using? It seems the profile is spending much of its time inside the exception unwinder. This might be due to the fact that Eclipse uses a huge number of shared libraries, enough to blow out the cache. To explain: in libgcc we have a cache used for unwinding. The cache tells us which shared library contains the PC. Whenever we look up a PC value, we look in the cache. Each cache element contains pc_low and pc_high. There are 8 cache entries, which is sufficient in almost all cases. However, Eclipse has a huge number of libraries, and I suspect the cache is being flushed every time. The reason I suspect this is the large number of calls to search_object(). It is also possible that there is some problem with unwinder data. This will cause a linear search to be done instead of a binary search. > Also, are you using FC4's oprofile, or the one from oprofile cvs? > > See > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157854 > > Your profiles look a little bit like the bogus ones I reported. I think so. I don't believe 8% of total time inside __do_global_ctors_aux. Also, search_object() is being called a huge number of times but none of the routines that it calls appear in the profile. This is impossible. Andrew. static const fde * search_object (struct object* ob, void *pc) { /* If the data hasn't been sorted, try to do this now. We may have more memory available than last time we tried. */ if (! ob->s.b.sorted) { init_object (ob); /* Despite the above comment, the normal reason to get here is that we've not processed this object before. 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URL: From overholt at redhat.com Wed Jun 8 12:07:37 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:07:37 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Oprofiling Eclipse startup (x86) In-Reply-To: <1118205755.4811.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050607203849.GD3287@redhat.com> <1118205755.4811.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050608120737.GA1173@redhat.com> * Anthony Green [2005-06-08 00:43]: > > I recently checked in a change to the GCC 4.0 branch that saves over 10k > exceptions and related memory allocations during Eclipse startup. Wow. > This change appeared in today's gcc-4.0.0-11. Is this what you're > using? Yes. > Also, are you using FC4's oprofile, or the one from oprofile cvs? Oh damn, I forgot about that. I was using the one from FC4. If I'm using the one from CVS (which I'll build now), does it matter what kernel I'm using? Andrew From green at redhat.com Wed Jun 8 13:48:26 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:48:26 -0700 Subject: [fedora-java] Oprofiling Eclipse startup (x86) In-Reply-To: <20050608120737.GA1173@redhat.com> References: <20050607203849.GD3287@redhat.com> <1118205755.4811.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050608120737.GA1173@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1118238506.4811.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 08:07 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > > Also, are you using FC4's oprofile, or the one from oprofile cvs? > > Oh damn, I forgot about that. I was using the one from FC4. If I'm using > the one from CVS (which I'll build now), does it matter what kernel I'm > using? No, that makes no difference. And, in fact, you can use FC4's opcontrol. opreport is the thing you need from oprofile cvs. AG From overholt at redhat.com Wed Jun 8 14:37:22 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:37:22 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Oprofiling Eclipse startup (x86) In-Reply-To: <1118238506.4811.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050607203849.GD3287@redhat.com> <1118205755.4811.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050608120737.GA1173@redhat.com> <1118238506.4811.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050608143722.GA2788@redhat.com> * Anthony Green [2005-06-08 09:50]: > On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 08:07 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > > > Also, are you using FC4's oprofile, or the one from oprofile cvs? > > > > Oh damn, I forgot about that. I was using the one from FC4. If I'm using > > the one from CVS (which I'll build now), does it matter what kernel I'm > > using? > > No, that makes no difference. And, in fact, you can use FC4's > opcontrol. opreport is the thing you need from oprofile cvs. The opreport that I have built from an old-ish CVS checkout keeps seg faulting on me. Awesome. I'll try a newer checkout. Andrew From green at redhat.com Wed Jun 8 14:57:27 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:57:27 -0700 Subject: [fedora-java] Azureus status Message-ID: <1118242648.4811.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've spent a little time debugging Azureus[1] + gcj 4.0.x. I'm hoping we can get this combination working well in the FC5 time frame[2]. I have a couple of simple patches to Azureus[3] of the "don't use com.sun.*" variety. I've also checked in a couple of fixes to libgcj (in the FSF 4.0 branch). Azureus starts up and appears to be doing something. But it's currently stuck on what Michael Koch believes are bugs in our java.nio implementation (channels are getting closed prematurely). I have to put this aside for a while due to time constraints. If anybody else is willing to try to make a little more progress, I'd be happy to share my Azureus patches and advice. It would be especially good if somebody could take up the cause of promoting Azureus on Free runtimes with the Azureus developer community. Just send me a note. Thanks! AG [1] http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://www.spindazzle.org/green/index.php?p=52 [3] which should really go upstream From justin.conover at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 02:58:14 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:58:14 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] Azureus status In-Reply-To: <1118242648.4811.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1118242648.4811.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 6/8/05, Anthony Green wrote: > I've spent a little time debugging Azureus[1] + gcj 4.0.x. I'm hoping > we can get this combination working well in the FC5 time frame[2]. > > I have a couple of simple patches to Azureus[3] of the "don't use > com.sun.*" variety. I've also checked in a couple of fixes to libgcj > (in the FSF 4.0 branch). > > Azureus starts up and appears to be doing something. But it's currently > stuck on what Michael Koch believes are bugs in our java.nio > implementation (channels are getting closed prematurely). > > I have to put this aside for a while due to time constraints. If > anybody else is willing to try to make a little more progress, I'd be > happy to share my Azureus patches and advice. It would be especially > good if somebody could take up the cause of promoting Azureus on Free > runtimes with the Azureus developer community. Just send me a note. > > Thanks! > > AG > > > [1] http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ > > [2] http://www.spindazzle.org/green/index.php?p=52 > > [3] which should really go upstream > > > > -- > fedora-devel-java-list mailing list > fedora-devel-java-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list > Well, I'm not a developer or anything, currently trying to learn java and I've only been using the java supplied by rawhide :D I pretty much run rawhide at all times on 3 box's, x86 & x86_64, so if there is something I can test for you let me know. Maybe I'll learn something else on the way. Or at least if there is something I can test for you, I do have 2 different arch's to test on. I know what you mean by time constraints, I just signed up for a 3 month on call to support websphere/aix so I think it's going to kick my arse at work plus I do most of the linux certification of software my group supports on rhel 2.1/3.3 and seem to be the one people skip over the pager and call me directly for apache. btw, is Head First Java 2nd edition pretty good? Sams Teach Yourself Java 2 and I try and take some java programming classess at work when I get a chance. I went a few weeks ago and everything we did in the class, I used my laptop that runs rawhide and every program I wrote/tested worked fine. (nothing fancy), just thought that was cool, everyone else was using windows and sun's java. (those two in the same sentence just sounds sick) I know, I'm a zealot and I'm proud of it! All that said, I'm crazy and I love to run rawhide, nothing else does it for me. 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URL: From aph at redhat.com Mon Jun 13 13:00:43 2005 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:00:43 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] Oprofiling Eclipse startup (x86) In-Reply-To: <20050608143722.GA2788@redhat.com> References: <20050607203849.GD3287@redhat.com> <1118205755.4811.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050608120737.GA1173@redhat.com> <1118238506.4811.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050608143722.GA2788@redhat.com> Message-ID: <17069.33659.41173.8201@zapata.pink> Andrew Overholt writes: > * Anthony Green [2005-06-08 09:50]: > > On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 08:07 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > > > > Also, are you using FC4's oprofile, or the one from oprofile cvs? > > > > > > Oh damn, I forgot about that. I was using the one from FC4. If I'm using > > > the one from CVS (which I'll build now), does it matter what kernel I'm > > > using? > > > > No, that makes no difference. And, in fact, you can use FC4's > > opcontrol. opreport is the thing you need from oprofile cvs. > > The opreport that I have built from an old-ish CVS checkout keeps seg > faulting on me. Awesome. I'll try a newer checkout. Any news? Andrew. From overholt at redhat.com Mon Jun 13 14:05:02 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:05:02 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Oprofiling Eclipse startup (x86) In-Reply-To: <17069.33659.41173.8201@zapata.pink> References: <20050607203849.GD3287@redhat.com> <1118205755.4811.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050608120737.GA1173@redhat.com> <1118238506.4811.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050608143722.GA2788@redhat.com> <17069.33659.41173.8201@zapata.pink> Message-ID: <20050613140502.GA15468@redhat.com> * Andrew Haley [2005-06-13 09:02]: > Andrew Overholt writes: > > > > The opreport that I have built from an old-ish CVS checkout keeps seg > > faulting on me. Awesome. I'll try a newer checkout. > > Any news? I tried a newer checkout and things gave me the same result. Building on ppc gives me "No suitably-configured kernel installed." I'll look into it further this week. Andrew From wasabi at larvalstage.net Wed Jun 15 03:07:07 2005 From: wasabi at larvalstage.net (Jerry Haltom) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:07:07 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] gcjdbtool config Message-ID: <1118804827.25475.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> I notice on an old thread that work had been done into planning how to merge separate package's .db files into the central .db file. What was decided? A post install script that scans for .db files and merges them? How are they unmerged when the package is removed? -- Jerry Haltom From green at redhat.com Wed Jun 15 03:51:51 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:51:51 -0700 Subject: [fedora-java] gcjdbtool config In-Reply-To: <1118804827.25475.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1118804827.25475.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1118807511.3852.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 22:07 -0500, Jerry Haltom wrote: > I notice on an old thread that work had been done into planning how to > merge separate package's .db files into the central .db file. > > What was decided? A post install script that scans for .db files and > merges them? How are they unmerged when the package is removed? The central .db file is /usr/lib/gcj-4.0.0/classmap.db jar specific .db files go in the directory /usr/lib/gcj-4.0.0/classmap.db.d. See below for the contents of my FC4 system's directory. RPM post install and uninstall scripts build the classmap.db file from scratch using /usr/bin/rebuild-gcj-db, which is part of the java-1.4.2-gcj-compat package. So there's no real "unmerging" happening - just rebuilding from scratch. It's a very fast process. $ ls -l /usr/lib/gcj-4.0.0/classmap.db.d/ total 63560 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 23 06:30 ant-1.6.2.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 352256 May 19 08:41 eclipse-bugzilla.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 430080 May 23 12:26 eclipse-cdt.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 352256 Apr 26 21:26 eclipse-changelog.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 22 12:14 eclipse-ecj.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 22 12:15 eclipse-jdt.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 22 12:15 eclipse-pde.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 22 12:17 eclipse-platform.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 352256 Apr 26 16:11 eclipse-pydev.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 23 06:49 jakarta-commons-beanutils-1.7.0.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 23 06:55 jakarta-commons-collections-3.1.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 23 07:14 jakarta-commons-digester-1.6.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 23 07:48 jakarta-commons-el-1.0.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 23 07:56 jakarta-commons-logging-1.0.4.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 23 08:47 jakarta-commons-modeler-1.1.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8192 Apr 22 11:42 jsch.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 22 12:17 libswt3-gtk2.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 6 06:29 mx4j-2.1.0.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 5 06:21 regexp-1.3.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 10 03:40 struts-1.1.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 10 03:58 tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api-5.0.30.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 5 06:19 xerces-j2-2.6.2.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3522560 May 5 06:26 xml-commons-1.0.db From tromey at redhat.com Wed Jun 15 15:13:43 2005 From: tromey at redhat.com (Tom Tromey) Date: 15 Jun 2005 09:13:43 -0600 Subject: [fedora-java] gcjdbtool config In-Reply-To: <1118804827.25475.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1118804827.25475.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: >>>>> "Jerry" == Jerry Haltom writes: Jerry> What was decided? A post install script that scans for .db files and Jerry> merges them? BTW the support scripts are all in the 'java-gcj-compat' module of rhug. Tom From wasabi at larvalstage.net Thu Jun 16 05:47:07 2005 From: wasabi at larvalstage.net (Jerry Haltom) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:47:07 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] gcjdbtool config In-Reply-To: References: <1118804827.25475.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1118900827.8683.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Okay I noticed them. Hadn't seem them. dbLocation=`/usr/bin/gcj-dbtool-4.0 -p $1` dirname $dbLocation | xargs mkdir -p (cd $dbLocation.d; ls . | xargs /usr/bin/gcj-dbtool-4.0 \ -m $dbLocation) This seems to assume that the dynamically generated .db is in the same location as the package .dbs... Sort of a FHS violation. We (debian/ubuntu) will be sticking the dynamic db in /var and the package ones in /usr someplace. I can mod this script to accept a source and destination argument. Is this suitable with you all? On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 09:13 -0600, Tom Tromey wrote: > >>>>> "Jerry" == Jerry Haltom writes: > > Jerry> What was decided? A post install script that scans for .db files and > Jerry> merges them? > > BTW the support scripts are all in the 'java-gcj-compat' module of > rhug. > > Tom > > -- > fedora-devel-java-list mailing list > fedora-devel-java-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list -- Jerry Haltom From gbenson at redhat.com Thu Jun 16 08:39:50 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:39:50 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] gcjdbtool config In-Reply-To: <1118900827.8683.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1118804827.25475.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1118900827.8683.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050616083949.GA14503@redhat.com> Jerry Haltom wrote: > This seems to assume that the dynamically generated .db is in the > same location as the package .dbs... Sort of a FHS violation. We > (debian/ubuntu) will be sticking the dynamic db in /var and the > package ones in /usr someplace. That does sound better, from a FHS point of view. > I can mod this script to accept a source and destination > argument. Is this suitable with you all? It'd be nice if it did the new thing with the same old arguments, so I don't have to modify all my rpms ;) Gary From mark at klomp.org Thu Jun 16 14:45:25 2005 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:45:25 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] ANN: Linux TestFest In-Reply-To: <4qcoihwz.fsf@katun.spikesource.com> References: <4qcoihwz.fsf@katun.spikesource.com> Message-ID: <1118933125.16368.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Surendra, On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 12:32 -0700, Surendra Singhi wrote: > TestFest on June 17th. We'll give you the chance to show how good your code > really is by testing it using our new 'test harness'. We run 22,000 tests > per day on over 63 open source components using this harness. This event > kicks off our free testing service for the open source community. Mix and > mingle with our developers to chat about open source testing. Hear from > SpikeSource founder & CTO Murugan Pal on Participatory Testing and our > architect, Sastry Malladi, about our Core stack product. Testing > demonstrations on popular open source software will also be held for > attendees. All developers are welcome! Check us out at > www.spikesource.com/testfest.html, where you can register and learn how to > package and test your code. On June 17th, 3pm, head over to SpikeSource > offices in Redwood City to receive a report on your test results with > helpful feedback from our staff. Lots of free food & beer to go around. > Heck, we're even hiring. Should be a real geek fest! We hope to see you > there. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it tomorrow (I am in Amterdam/The Netherlands). But I am really excited about a company that does regular testing of the free software stacks out there. There are a couple of things we have developed that are currently not in your stack yet that would see great benefit if you could add them. If you are able to discuss this tomorrow with some of the SpikeSource hackers and tell us how these things can be integrated with what you do that would be really appreciated. - There are some parts in your stack that you call "Components Not Covered By Open Software License" these seem to be the proprietary Java runtimes. We have been working hard to provide a free replacement for these and the Fedora Core 4 distribution is the first to ship with them enabled by default (see the gcj-java-compat package that will install all relevant tools and libraries). - For this stack we created the Mauve testsuite (http://www.sourceware.org/mauve/). This setsuite (more then 25.000 tests in the core library module) is setup like a collection of JUnit tests. But it predates JUnit by a couple of years so the testharness is a little different. It shouldn't be hard to adapt it to what you currently have though. - A similar effort to what you seem to have setup is the Gump project from Apache. They are currently running daily tests of Kaffe (an alternative free software runtime to gcj also based on GNU Classpath) with various of the projects you are also testing at the moment. (See http://brutus.apache.org/gump/kaffe/ and more generally http://brutus.apache.org/) We would love to have another setup of this using gcj-java-compat tools. And it seems the synergy of this test setup with your infrastructure would be very helpful. Please let us know if any of the above projects can be made to integrate with what you have now already setup. We would love to get regular test results from you against the gcj-java-compat stack in Fedora Core 4. Thanks, Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Feel free to post other ideas, comments, etc. Tom From overholt at redhat.com Fri Jun 17 15:07:33 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:07:33 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] FC5 stuff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050617150733.GA11611@redhat.com> * Tom Tromey [2005-06-17 11:05]: > Also on my wish list, but not reflected in the wiki, is 1.5 language > support. I would rank this below gcjwebplugin though. Personally, I would rank 1.5 language support over gcjwebplugin. However, I guess gcjwebplugin is a smaller task so it could probably be accomplished as we work towards 1.5 features. Andrew From zbalevsky at limepeer.com Fri Jun 17 15:54:51 2005 From: zbalevsky at limepeer.com (Zlatin Balevsky) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:54:51 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] recommendations for coexistence with Sun-jre Message-ID: <42B2F24B.4040809@limepeer.com> Greetings, I've been receiving many reports that applications that depend on Sun (such as LimeWire which I work for) java break on FC4. I can't advise people to get rid of the -compat package because openoffice.org-core depends on it. Is there an officially supported/recommended way of having Sun java coexist with the -compat? Thanks in advance, Zlatin Balevsky Lime Wire LLC From fitzsim at redhat.com Fri Jun 17 16:12:18 2005 From: fitzsim at redhat.com (Thomas Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:12:18 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] recommendations for coexistence with Sun-jre In-Reply-To: <42B2F24B.4040809@limepeer.com> References: <42B2F24B.4040809@limepeer.com> Message-ID: <1119024738.26628.39.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:54 -0400, Zlatin Balevsky wrote: > Greetings, > > I've been receiving many reports that applications that depend on Sun > (such as LimeWire which I work for) java break on FC4. I can't advise > people to get rid of the -compat package because openoffice.org-core > depends on it. > > Is there an officially supported/recommended way of having Sun java > coexist with the -compat? Yes, we recommend creating a Sun JPackage RPM, then installing that. All the java tools in /usr/bin will then point to Sun's Java implementation. Tom > > Thanks in advance, > Zlatin Balevsky > Lime Wire LLC > > -- > fedora-devel-java-list mailing list > fedora-devel-java-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list From jdf.lists at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 16:54:43 2005 From: jdf.lists at gmail.com (Joshua Daniel Franklin) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:54:43 -0700 Subject: [fedora-java] recommendations for coexistence with Sun-jre In-Reply-To: <1119024738.26628.39.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> References: <42B2F24B.4040809@limepeer.com> <1119024738.26628.39.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> Message-ID: <67437bc4050617095425cb0ced@mail.gmail.com> On 6/17/05, Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote: > On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:54 -0400, Zlatin Balevsky wrote: > > Is there an officially supported/recommended way of having Sun java > > coexist with the -compat? > > Yes, we recommend creating a Sun JPackage RPM, then installing that. > All the java tools in /usr/bin will then point to Sun's Java > implementation. And in case you're unfamiliar with JPackage, that's easy to do; a quick paraphrase of http://jpackage.org/rebuilding.php: 1. Download and install the nosrc rpm http://jpackage.org/rpm.php?id=2546 2. Put the Sun package in your rpmbuild/SOURCES 3. rpmbuild -ba rpmbuild/SPECS/java....spec 4. enjoy your RPMs in rpmbuild/RPMS/ 5. Add your name and a comments to http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4680244.html to get Sun to produce reasonable RPMs in the first place! From tromey at redhat.com Fri Jun 17 17:08:15 2005 From: tromey at redhat.com (Tom Tromey) Date: 17 Jun 2005 11:08:15 -0600 Subject: [fedora-java] FC5 stuff In-Reply-To: <20050617150733.GA11611@redhat.com> References: <20050617150733.GA11611@redhat.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Overholt writes: >> Also on my wish list, but not reflected in the wiki, is 1.5 language >> support. I would rank this below gcjwebplugin though. Andrew> However, I guess gcjwebplugin is a smaller task so it could Andrew> probably be accomplished as we work towards 1.5 features. Not necessarily, the security stuff is pretty complicated. Andrew> Personally, I would rank 1.5 language support over Andrew> gcjwebplugin. Why is that? My reason for prioritizing the plugin is that it enables useful end-user functionality (and also would make JNLP work, though that is not as cool). Also I haven't seen a huge amount of 1.5 code in the wild, so delaying this a little seemed like it wouldn't hurt much. Tom From zbalevsky at limepeer.com Fri Jun 17 17:45:22 2005 From: zbalevsky at limepeer.com (Zlatin Balevsky) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:45:22 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] recommendations for coexistence with Sun-jre In-Reply-To: <67437bc4050617095425cb0ced@mail.gmail.com> References: <42B2F24B.4040809@limepeer.com> <1119024738.26628.39.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> <67437bc4050617095425cb0ced@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42B30C32.3010909@limepeer.com> Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: >On 6/17/05, Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote: > > >>On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:54 -0400, Zlatin Balevsky wrote: >> >> >>>Is there an officially supported/recommended way of having Sun java >>>coexist with the -compat? >>> >>> >>Yes, we recommend creating a Sun JPackage RPM, then installing that. >>All the java tools in /usr/bin will then point to Sun's Java >>implementation. >> >> > >And in case you're unfamiliar with JPackage, that's easy to do; a quick >paraphrase of http://jpackage.org/rebuilding.php: > >1. Download and install the nosrc rpm http://jpackage.org/rpm.php?id=2546 > >2. Put the Sun package in your rpmbuild/SOURCES > >3. rpmbuild -ba rpmbuild/SPECS/java....spec > >4. enjoy your RPMs in rpmbuild/RPMS/ > >5. Add your name and a comments to >http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4680244.html >to get Sun to produce reasonable RPMs in the first place! > >-- >fedora-devel-java-list mailing list >fedora-devel-java-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list > > That is all swell for me and you guys, but my target audience are desktop end-users - any need to use the shell or any extra steps are very detrimental to their experience. Is it possible to automate all these steps in the preinstall / postinstall scripts of a stub rpm? From fitzsim at redhat.com Fri Jun 17 17:57:26 2005 From: fitzsim at redhat.com (Thomas Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:57:26 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] recommendations for coexistence with Sun-jre In-Reply-To: <42B30C32.3010909@limepeer.com> References: <42B2F24B.4040809@limepeer.com> <1119024738.26628.39.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> <67437bc4050617095425cb0ced@mail.gmail.com> <42B30C32.3010909@limepeer.com> Message-ID: <1119031046.26628.45.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 13:45 -0400, Zlatin Balevsky wrote: > Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: > > >On 6/17/05, Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote: > > > > > >>On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:54 -0400, Zlatin Balevsky wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Is there an officially supported/recommended way of having Sun java > >>>coexist with the -compat? > >>> > >>> > >>Yes, we recommend creating a Sun JPackage RPM, then installing that. > >>All the java tools in /usr/bin will then point to Sun's Java > >>implementation. > >> > >> > > > >And in case you're unfamiliar with JPackage, that's easy to do; a quick > >paraphrase of http://jpackage.org/rebuilding.php: > > > >1. Download and install the nosrc rpm http://jpackage.org/rpm.php?id=2546 > > > >2. Put the Sun package in your rpmbuild/SOURCES > > > >3. rpmbuild -ba rpmbuild/SPECS/java....spec > > > >4. enjoy your RPMs in rpmbuild/RPMS/ > > > >5. Add your name and a comments to > >http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4680244.html > >to get Sun to produce reasonable RPMs in the first place! > > > >-- > >fedora-devel-java-list mailing list > >fedora-devel-java-list at redhat.com > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list > > > > > That is all swell for me and you guys, but my target audience are > desktop end-users - any need to use the shell or any extra steps are > very detrimental to their experience. If the app you're providing your end-users requires Sun's JRE then you're effectively forcing them to use the shell anyway, to install Sun's RPM. Hopefully GCJ will soon be able to run the Lime Wire client, in which case there will be no need for an extra installation step. Feel free to test, using java-gcj-compat, and report any bugs you find. > Is it possible to automate all > these steps in the preinstall / postinstall scripts of a stub rpm? There is also the java-1.4.2-sun-compat package from JPackage. It installs on top of Sun's standard RPMs and creates a tree of compatibility symlinks. Tom > > -- > fedora-devel-java-list mailing list > fedora-devel-java-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list From djo at coconut-palm-software.com Fri Jun 17 17:59:54 2005 From: djo at coconut-palm-software.com (David J. Orme) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:59:54 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] FC5 stuff In-Reply-To: References: <20050617150733.GA11611@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1119031194.23273.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:08 -0600, Tom Tromey wrote: > Andrew> Personally, I would rank 1.5 language support over > Andrew> gcjwebplugin. > > Why is that? > > My reason for prioritizing the plugin is that it enables useful > end-user functionality (and also would make JNLP work, though that is > not as cool). Also I haven't seen a huge amount of 1.5 code in the > wild, so delaying this a little seemed like it wouldn't hurt much. I have to agree with Andrew here. Significant Eclipse plugins are now being written using 1.5 code. If we want to continue supporting Eclipse, we'll need to be compliant here. Best regards, Dave Orme -- Visual Editor Project lead http://www.db4o.com -- The Open-source Java Object Database http://xswt.sf.net -- XML-based SWT page description language From dmalcolm at redhat.com Fri Jun 17 19:01:59 2005 From: dmalcolm at redhat.com (David Malcolm) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:01:59 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] FC5 stuff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1119034920.19974.70.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 09:01 -0600, Tom Tromey wrote: > Karen pointed out to me that the wiki has some wish-list like items > for java programs and FC5: > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Future > > (look for " free java related enhancements") > > I don't know how much of this we will actually get done. > Offhand I would say that Azureus and RSSOwl are the easiest targets > to hit. JXplorer is a complete unknown to me. gcjwebplugin requires > a number of libgcj enhancements, notably security. I played around with JXplorer last night, and it looks promising; I was able to dig around inside an Active Directory server with it. (I've little idea how to package things up for free java though, and I'm totally overcommitted timewise already, alas) > > Also on my wish list, but not reflected in the wiki, is 1.5 language > support. I would rank this below gcjwebplugin though. > > Feel free to post other ideas, comments, etc. > > Tom > > -- > fedora-devel-java-list mailing list > fedora-devel-java-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list From justin.conover at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 12:37:43 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:37:43 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] java F-Spot alternative? Message-ID: Does one exist, I didn't see anything in the "Multimedia/Graphics" on JPackage.org From justin.conover at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 13:28:33 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:28:33 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] recommendations for coexistence with Sun-jre In-Reply-To: <1119031046.26628.45.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> References: <42B2F24B.4040809@limepeer.com> <1119024738.26628.39.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> <67437bc4050617095425cb0ced@mail.gmail.com> <42B30C32.3010909@limepeer.com> <1119031046.26628.45.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 6/17/05, Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote: > On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 13:45 -0400, Zlatin Balevsky wrote: > > Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: > > > > >On 6/17/05, Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote: > > > > > > > > >>On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:54 -0400, Zlatin Balevsky wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>Is there an officially supported/recommended way of having Sun java > > >>>coexist with the -compat? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>Yes, we recommend creating a Sun JPackage RPM, then installing that. > > >>All the java tools in /usr/bin will then point to Sun's Java > > >>implementation. > > >> > > >> > > > > > >And in case you're unfamiliar with JPackage, that's easy to do; a quick > > >paraphrase of http://jpackage.org/rebuilding.php: > > > > > >1. Download and install the nosrc rpm http://jpackage.org/rpm.php?id=2546 > > > > > >2. Put the Sun package in your rpmbuild/SOURCES > > > > > >3. rpmbuild -ba rpmbuild/SPECS/java....spec > > > > > >4. enjoy your RPMs in rpmbuild/RPMS/ > > > > > >5. Add your name and a comments to > > >http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4680244.html > > >to get Sun to produce reasonable RPMs in the first place! Trying to build this with FC4 X86_64 I get the following error. + grep -vF alsa.so + grep -v jre/lib/security + grep -v Jdbc + /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/heapTracker/lib/libheapTracker_g.so' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64' in [$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64:$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64] ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/heapTracker/lib/libheapTracker_g.so' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64' in [$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64:$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64] ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/heapTracker/lib/libheapTracker.so' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64' in [$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64:$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64] ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/heapTracker/lib/libheapTracker.so' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64' in [$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64:$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64] ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/mtrace/lib/libmtrace_g.so' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64' in [$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64:$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64] ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/mtrace/lib/libmtrace_g.so' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64' in [$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64:$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64] ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/mtrace/lib/libmtrace.so' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64' in [$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64:$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64] ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/mtrace/lib/libmtrace.so' contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64' in [$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64:$ORIGIN/../../../../jre/lib/amd64] error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.32654 (%install) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.32654 (%install) From overholt at redhat.com Sun Jun 19 23:35:22 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:35:22 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] java F-Spot alternative? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050619233521.GA18060@redhat.com> * Justin Conover [2005-06-19 08:37]: > Does one exist, I didn't see anything in the "Multimedia/Graphics" on > JPackage.org Not that I know of. I'm sure there are a million photo cataloguing tools written in Java on sourceforge and freshmeat, but direct or semi-direct F-Spot alternatives I don't know. Let us know what you find :) Andrew From justin.conover at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 02:05:03 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:05:03 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] java F-Spot alternative? In-Reply-To: <20050619233521.GA18060@redhat.com> References: <20050619233521.GA18060@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 6/19/05, Andrew Overholt wrote: > * Justin Conover [2005-06-19 08:37]: > > Does one exist, I didn't see anything in the "Multimedia/Graphics" on > > JPackage.org > > Not that I know of. I'm sure there are a million photo cataloguing tools > written in Java on sourceforge and freshmeat, but direct or semi-direct > F-Spot alternatives I don't know. Let us know what you find :) > > Andrew > http://freshmeat.net/projects/caliph/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/jdai/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/superalbum/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/javaigs/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/jcap/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/iomojocam/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/advancedslideshowsoftware/ From tromey at redhat.com Mon Jun 20 02:04:42 2005 From: tromey at redhat.com (Tom Tromey) Date: 19 Jun 2005 20:04:42 -0600 Subject: [fedora-java] FC5 stuff In-Reply-To: <1119034920.19974.70.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> References: <1119034920.19974.70.camel@cassandra.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "David" == David Malcolm writes: David> (I've little idea how to package things up for free java though, and I'm David> totally overcommitted timewise already, alas) I tried it with gcj this weekend and it didn't work. I only tried it superficially -- just edited the launch script to invoke gij instead of java. It wanted javax.swing.text.html, which afaik is essentially unimplemented in Classpath. Tom From tiagomatos at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 20:52:07 2005 From: tiagomatos at gmail.com (Rui Tiago =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ca=E7=E3o?= Matos) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:52:07 +0100 (WEST) Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status Message-ID: <20050620.215207.35662933.tiagomatos@gmail.com> Anthony Green wrote: > I have to put this aside for a while due to time constraints. If > anybody else is willing to try to make a little more progress, I'd be > happy to share my Azureus patches and advice. I'd like to take a look at those patches. Could you please drop them on some webserver? I'm not going to commit myself to do anything meaningful but I'd like to tinker with them a bit :-) Thanks, Rui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From overholt at redhat.com Mon Jun 20 20:57:53 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:57:53 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Eclipse 3.1RC3 RPMs Message-ID: <20050620205753.GA32109@redhat.com> (from my blog) Hi, I made some 3.1RC3 RPMs and put them up at http://overholt.ca/rpms/eclipse. These are very similar to the RC2 RPMs but there are a few differences because I?m now making use of the work Ben and I did (with help from Pascal and others) on Eclipse bug #90535 [1]. This means that there will no longer be .sos in ~/.eclipse. Removing that directory (and its contents) prior to running with these RPMs and verifying that there are no longer any .sos in there after your work with Eclipse would be appreciated. Also, since we?re now able to extract the .sos from those .jars that have them, the SWT JNI libraries are now owned by libswt3-gtk2. This will make packaging SWT apps (like RSSOwl [2] which I took a look at on Friday and will continue to pick at as I have time) much easier. Please test if you can and let me know. I?m probably going to push to rawhide but I wanted to get a headstart. Andrew [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=90535 [2] http://www.rssowl.org/ From green at redhat.com Mon Jun 20 21:24:55 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:24:55 -0700 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status In-Reply-To: <20050620.215207.35662933.tiagomatos@gmail.com> References: <20050620.215207.35662933.tiagomatos@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1119302695.9755.11.camel@to-dhcp1.toronto.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 21:52 +0100, Rui Tiago Ca??o Matos wrote: > Anthony Green wrote: > > > I have to put this aside for a while due to time constraints. If > > anybody else is willing to try to make a little more progress, I'd be > > happy to share my Azureus patches and advice. > > I'd like to take a look at those patches. Could you please drop them on > some webserver? I'm not going to commit myself to do anything meaningful > but I'd like to tinker with them a bit :-) Happily! Unfortunately this will have to wait 'til Saturday. I'm out of town right now, and they're on my machine at home, which seems to have gone down in the past few days. AG From tiagomatos at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 02:39:28 2005 From: tiagomatos at gmail.com (Rui Tiago =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ca=E7=E3o?= Matos) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:39:28 +0100 (WEST) Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status In-Reply-To: <1119302695.9755.11.camel@to-dhcp1.toronto.redhat.com> References: <20050620.215207.35662933.tiagomatos@gmail.com> <1119302695.9755.11.camel@to-dhcp1.toronto.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050621.033928.21921977.tiagomatos@gmail.com> I actually got to the point of having azureus running with gij. It fires out a lot of errors but it doesn't crash :-) I wasn't able to actually download anything with it, so that will be the next thing I'm going to investigate. Cheers, Rui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From green at redhat.com Tue Jun 21 03:28:35 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:35 -0700 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status In-Reply-To: <20050621.033928.21921977.tiagomatos@gmail.com> References: <20050620.215207.35662933.tiagomatos@gmail.com> <1119302695.9755.11.camel@to-dhcp1.toronto.redhat.com> <20050621.033928.21921977.tiagomatos@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1119324515.4126.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 03:39 +0100, Rui Tiago Ca??o Matos wrote: > I actually got to the point of having azureus running with gij. It fires > out a lot of errors but it doesn't crash :-) > > I wasn't able to actually download anything with it, so that will be the > next thing I'm going to investigate. Which gcj version are you using? I checked in a couple of important-to-Azureus networking fixes to the FSF's 4.0 branch and cvs HEAD a while ago. These aren't in the FC4 gcj yet. AG From tiagomatos at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 03:56:27 2005 From: tiagomatos at gmail.com (Rui Tiago =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ca=E7=E3o?= Matos) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:56:27 +0100 (WEST) Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status In-Reply-To: <1119324515.4126.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1119302695.9755.11.camel@to-dhcp1.toronto.redhat.com> <20050621.033928.21921977.tiagomatos@gmail.com> <1119324515.4126.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050621.045627.74739370.tiagomatos@gmail.com> From: Anthony Green > Which gcj version are you using? I'm using ubuntu's default version at this point: gcj (GCC) 4.0.1 20050617 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.0-9ubuntu2) On a side note, trying to compile to native with gcj is a real mess (I'm using azureus 2.3.0.2): * .java -> native, I get $ gcj --encoding=WINDOWS-1252 -I /usr/share/java/log4j-1.2.jar -I /usr/share/java/xerces.jar -I /usr/share/java/gnu-crypto.jar -I /usr/share/java/gnujaxp.jar -I ../org-metastatic-jessie.jar -I /usr/share/java/swt-gtk-3.1.jar -I /usr/share/java/swt-pi-gtk-3.1.jar -I ../seda.jar -I /usr/share/java/commons-cli.jar -c @azureus ./com/aelitis/azureus/core/networkmanager/impl/NetworkConnectionImpl.java:42: error: Class ?com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.impl.NetworkConnectionImpl? doesn't define the abstract method ?void com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.NetworkConnection.connect(com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.NetworkConnection$ConnectionListener)? from interface ?com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.NetworkConnection?. This method must be defined or class ?com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.impl.NetworkConnectionImpl? must be declared abstract. public class NetworkConnectionImpl implements NetworkConnection { ^ @azureus is a file containing all the .java files. I don't really have any experience with java (using this as learning project :-) but from what I can see that connect() method _is_ implemented in the right place... * .java -> .class with jikes and then .class -> native with gcj goes like this: $ gcj --encoding=WINDOWS-1252 -I /usr/share/java/log4j-1.2.jar -I /usr/share/java/xerces.jar -I /usr/share/java/gnu-crypto.jar -I /usr/share/java/gnujaxp.jar -I ../../org-metastatic-jessie.jar -I /usr/share/java/swt-gtk-3.1.jar -I /usr/share/java/swt-pi-gtk-3.1.jar -I ../../seda.jar -I /usr/share/java/commons-cli.jar azureus2.jar -o azureus -w org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/views/MyTorrentsSuperView.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.views.MyTorrentsSuperView': org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/views/MyTorrentsSuperView.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.views.MyTorrentsSuperView.generateDiagnostics(org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.IndentWriter)': org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/views/MyTorrentsSuperView.java:207: error: verification error at PC=75 org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/views/MyTorrentsSuperView.java:207: error: might transfer control into subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/Tab.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Tab': org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/Tab.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Tab.dispose()': org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/Tab.java:468: error: verification error at PC=91 org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/Tab.java:468: error: might transfer control into subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/ui/web2/stages/hdapi/WildcardDynamicHttp.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.ui.web2.stages.hdapi.WildcardDynamicHttp': org/gudy/azureus2/ui/web2/stages/hdapi/WildcardDynamicHttp.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.ui.web2.stages.hdapi.WildcardDynamicHttp.doRequest(org.gudy.azureus2.ui.web2.http.request.httpRequest)': org/gudy/azureus2/ui/web2/stages/hdapi/WildcardDynamicHttp.java:173: error: verification error at PC=75 org/gudy/azureus2/ui/web2/stages/hdapi/WildcardDynamicHttp.java:173: error: loading local variable 5 which has unknown type org/gudy/azureus2/ui/webplugin/remoteui/xml/client/XMLHTTPClient.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.ui.webplugin.remoteui.xml.client.XMLHTTPClient': org/gudy/azureus2/ui/webplugin/remoteui/xml/client/XMLHTTPClient.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.ui.webplugin.remoteui.xml.client.XMLHTTPClient.sendRequestSupport(java.lang.String)': org/gudy/azureus2/ui/webplugin/remoteui/xml/client/XMLHTTPClient.java:424: error: verification error at PC=336 org/gudy/azureus2/ui/webplugin/remoteui/xml/client/XMLHTTPClient.java:424: error: might transfer control into subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/pluginsimpl/local/utils/resourcedownloader/ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.pluginsimpl.local.utils.resourcedownloader.ResourceDownloaderURLImpl': org/gudy/azureus2/pluginsimpl/local/utils/resourcedownloader/ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.pluginsimpl.local.utils.resourcedownloader.ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.getSizeSupport()': org/gudy/azureus2/pluginsimpl/local/utils/resourcedownloader/ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.java:160: error: verification error at PC=295 org/gudy/azureus2/pluginsimpl/local/utils/resourcedownloader/ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.java:160: error: might transfer control into subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/pluginsimpl/local/utils/resourcedownloader/ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.pluginsimpl.local.utils.resourcedownloader.ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.download()': org/gudy/azureus2/pluginsimpl/local/utils/resourcedownloader/ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.java:316: error: verification error at PC=902 org/gudy/azureus2/pluginsimpl/local/utils/resourcedownloader/ResourceDownloaderURLImpl.java:316: error: might transfer control into subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/access/impl/DMReaderImpl.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.core3.disk.impl.access.impl.DMReaderImpl$DiskReadThread': org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/access/impl/DMReaderImpl.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.core3.disk.impl.access.impl.DMReaderImpl$DiskReadThread.runSupport()': org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/access/impl/DMReaderImpl.java:306: error: verification error at PC=313 org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/access/impl/DMReaderImpl.java:306: error: transfer out of subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/access/impl/DMWriterAndCheckerImpl.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.core3.disk.impl.access.impl.DMWriterAndCheckerImpl$DiskWriteThread': org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/access/impl/DMWriterAndCheckerImpl.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.core3.disk.impl.access.impl.DMWriterAndCheckerImpl$DiskWriteThread.runSupport()': org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/access/impl/DMWriterAndCheckerImpl.java:895: error: verification error at PC=399 org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/access/impl/DMWriterAndCheckerImpl.java:895: error: transfer out of subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/DiskManagerImpl.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.core3.disk.impl.DiskManagerImpl': org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/DiskManagerImpl.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.core3.disk.impl.DiskManagerImpl.filesExist(java.lang.String)': org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/DiskManagerImpl.java:409: error: verification error at PC=592 org/gudy/azureus2/core3/disk/impl/DiskManagerImpl.java:409: error: might transfer control into subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/core3/util/FileUtil.java: In class 'org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.FileUtil': org/gudy/azureus2/core3/util/FileUtil.java: In method 'org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.FileUtil.readResilientConfigFile(java.lang.String)': org/gudy/azureus2/core3/util/FileUtil.java:402: error: verification error at PC=61 org/gudy/azureus2/core3/util/FileUtil.java:402: error: might transfer control into subroutine org/gudy/azureus2/core3/util/FileUtil.java:402: confused by earlier errors, bailing out I don't know what these mean... I'm problably doing a lot of mistakes here :-) I'd be glad to hear about them. Rui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From green at redhat.com Tue Jun 21 04:39:45 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:39:45 -0700 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status In-Reply-To: <20050621.045627.74739370.tiagomatos@gmail.com> References: <1119302695.9755.11.camel@to-dhcp1.toronto.redhat.com> <20050621.033928.21921977.tiagomatos@gmail.com> <1119324515.4126.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050621.045627.74739370.tiagomatos@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1119328785.4126.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 04:56 +0100, Rui Tiago Ca??o Matos wrote: > On a side note, trying to compile to native with gcj is a real mess (I'm > using azureus 2.3.0.2): I hadn't bothered with native compilation yet. It seemed that there were enough library problems to simply continue debugging with gij. > * .java -> .class with jikes and then .class -> native with gcj goes like > this: jikes appears to be making bytecode gcj doesn't like. It would be good if could create a test case and report the bug to gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla. Thanks for working on this! AG From tromey at redhat.com Tue Jun 21 15:12:58 2005 From: tromey at redhat.com (Tom Tromey) Date: 21 Jun 2005 09:12:58 -0600 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status In-Reply-To: <1119328785.4126.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1119302695.9755.11.camel@to-dhcp1.toronto.redhat.com> <20050621.033928.21921977.tiagomatos@gmail.com> <1119324515.4126.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050621.045627.74739370.tiagomatos@gmail.com> <1119328785.4126.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: >>>>> "Anthony" == Anthony Green writes: >> * .java -> .class with jikes and then .class -> native with gcj goes like >> this: Anthony> jikes appears to be making bytecode gcj doesn't like. It Anthony> would be good if could create a test case and report the bug Anthony> to gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla. The 4.0.x gcj has two different bytecode verifiers: the old one and the new one. The new one is used when -findirect-dispatch is specified. (On gcc cvs trunk the new one is always used.) The old verifier rejects some code that the new verifier accepts. I recommend trying to compile the .class files with -findirect-dispatch. Tom From tromey at redhat.com Tue Jun 21 15:14:08 2005 From: tromey at redhat.com (Tom Tromey) Date: 21 Jun 2005 09:14:08 -0600 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status In-Reply-To: <20050621.045627.74739370.tiagomatos@gmail.com> References: <1119302695.9755.11.camel@to-dhcp1.toronto.redhat.com> <20050621.033928.21921977.tiagomatos@gmail.com> <1119324515.4126.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050621.045627.74739370.tiagomatos@gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "Rui" == Rui Tiago Ca??o Matos writes: Rui> ./com/aelitis/azureus/core/networkmanager/impl/NetworkConnectionImpl.java:42: error: Class ?com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.impl.NetworkConnectionImpl? doesn't define the abstract method ?void com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.NetworkConnection.connect(com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.NetworkConnection$ConnectionListener)? from interface ?com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.NetworkConnection?. This method must be defined or class ?com.aelitis.azureus.core.networkmanager.impl.NetworkConnectionImpl? must be declared abstract. Rui> public class NetworkConnectionImpl implements NetworkConnection { Rui> ^ Rui> @azureus is a file containing all the .java files. I don't really have Rui> any experience with java (using this as learning project :-) but from Rui> what I can see that connect() method _is_ implemented in the right Rui> place... Probably a gcj bug. It would be helpful if you could write a reduced test case and file it in the gcc bugzilla... Tom From Nicolas.Mailhot at laPoste.net Tue Jun 21 17:36:49 2005 From: Nicolas.Mailhot at laPoste.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:36:49 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] recommendations for coexistence with Sun-jre In-Reply-To: <42B30C32.3010909@limepeer.com> References: <42B2F24B.4040809@limepeer.com> <1119024738.26628.39.camel@tortoise.toronto.redhat.com> <67437bc4050617095425cb0ced@mail.gmail.com> <42B30C32.3010909@limepeer.com> Message-ID: <1119375410.2453.8.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le vendredi 17 juin 2005 ? 13:45 -0400, Zlatin Balevsky a ?crit : > That is all swell for me and you guys, but my target audience are > desktop end-users - any need to use the shell or any extra steps are > very detrimental to their experience. Is it possible to automate all > these steps in the preinstall / postinstall scripts of a stub rpm? You can probably redistribute the rpm result internally if you feel you and your users represent one moral entity WRT Sun license. 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Download and install the nosrc rpm http://jpackage.org/rpm.php?id=2546 > > > > > > > >2. Put the Sun package in your rpmbuild/SOURCES > > > > > > > >3. rpmbuild -ba rpmbuild/SPECS/java....spec > > > > > > > >4. enjoy your RPMs in rpmbuild/RPMS/ > > > > > > > >5. Add your name and a comments to > > > >http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4680244.html > > > >to get Sun to produce reasonable RPMs in the first place! > > Trying to build this with FC4 X86_64 I get the following error. > > + grep -vF alsa.so > + grep -v jre/lib/security > + grep -v Jdbc > + /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths /usr/lib/rpm/check-buildroot > ERROR: file '/usr/share/java-1.5.0-sun/demo/jvmti/heapTracker/lib/libheapTracker_g.so' > contains an invalid rpath '$ORIGIN/../../../../lib/amd64' in Probably a problem rpm version. rpm seems decided to break jvm specfiles every few releases. File a rpm bug in FC bugzilla and try another rpm version - since the binaries are prebuild it should not change the result. Alternatively this might be a real spec bug but please check with rpm gurus beforehand - I've lost count of the spurious build failures we've had. rpm is just not real tested with nosrc.rpm - as it should. -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tiagomatos at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 20:54:04 2005 From: tiagomatos at gmail.com (Rui T. C. Matos) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:54:04 +0100 (WEST) Subject: [fedora-java] Re: Azureus status In-Reply-To: References: <20050621.045627.74739370.tiagomatos@gmail.com> <1119328785.4126.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050621.215404.59660340.tiagomatos@gmail.com> From: Tom Tromey > The old verifier rejects some code that the new verifier accepts. I > recommend trying to compile the .class files with -findirect-dispatch. Indeed -findirect-dispatch works. I ended up with a 29 MB azureus binary. Yet it doesn't run even after setting CLASSPATH as I am doing to run the .jar with gij. Rui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, > since we're now able to extract the .sos from those .jars that have them, > the SWT JNI libraries are now owned by libswt3-gtk2. This will make > packaging SWT apps (like RSSOwl [2] which I took a look at on Friday and > will continue to pick at as I have time) much easier. Please test if you > can and let me know. I'm probably going to push to rawhide but I wanted to > get a headstart. > > Andrew > > [1] > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=90535 > > [2] > http://www.rssowl.org/ > > -- > fedora-devel-java-list mailing list > fedora-devel-java-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-java-list > Any chance for a src.rpm so I can rebuild on x86_64? From drcinc at frzmail.net Thu Jun 23 11:56:51 2005 From: drcinc at frzmail.net (Market Movers) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:56:51 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] 4 Billion Dollar Industry-investment op Message-ID: <200506231156.j5NBusrN029162@mx1.redhat.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From overholt at redhat.com Thu Jun 23 15:30:40 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:30:40 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Eclipse 3.1RC3 RPMs In-Reply-To: References: <20050620205753.GA32109@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050623153040.GB5249@redhat.com> * Justin Conover [2005-06-22 21:42]: > > Any chance for a src.rpm so I can rebuild on x86_64? I've made a few changes to the way we use the FileInitializer and I'm going to push to rawhide as soon as it works :) When that happens, we'll get ppc and x86_64. Is that okay or did you want an SRPM now? Andrew From justin.conover at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 10:01:24 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:01:24 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] Eclipse 3.1RC3 RPMs In-Reply-To: <20050623153040.GB5249@redhat.com> References: <20050620205753.GA32109@redhat.com> <20050623153040.GB5249@redhat.com> Message-ID: On 6/23/05, Andrew Overholt wrote: > * Justin Conover [2005-06-22 21:42]: > > > > Any chance for a src.rpm so I can rebuild on x86_64? > > I've made a few changes to the way we use the FileInitializer and I'm going > to push to rawhide as soon as it works :) When that happens, we'll get ppc > and x86_64. Is that okay or did you want an SRPM now? > > Andrew > I can hold off, I was just going to test it for you. From jobslog at frzmail.biz Fri Jun 24 11:22:57 2005 From: jobslog at frzmail.biz (Jobslog.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:22:57 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] Post JOBS fast and get results fast Message-ID: <200506241123.j5OBMxN1030387@mx1.redhat.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gbenson at redhat.com Fri Jun 24 14:06:29 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:06:29 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 Message-ID: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> Hi all, Those of you who are interested in JOnAS might like to know that the version I just built, jonas-4.3.3-1jpp_3fc, actually a) runs and b) serves pages! It's very crunchy at the moment, but any testing will be sorely appreciated. NOTES 1. When you try and start it note that "service jonas start" never returns control to the shell so you'll have to tail /var/log/jonas/jonas to see when it's started. Look for a message like "The JOnAS Server 'jonas' version 4.3.3 is ready". 2. It locks up during startup fairly frequently. If the last line in /var/log/jonas/jonas is "jmx service started" or "jtm service started" then you probably want to kill it and have another go. 3. You may get a load of database errors. If so, try removing dbm from jonas.services in /etc/jonas/jonas.properties and uninstalling the jonas-examples rpm. 4. "service jonas stop" doesn't seem to work, but the server can be halted quickly and easily by trying to look at the memory graph in the admin application. Enjoy! Gary From overholt at redhat.com Fri Jun 24 14:20:56 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:20:56 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050624142056.GA13387@redhat.com> * Gary Benson [2005-06-24 10:06]: > > Those of you who are interested in JOnAS might like to know that > the version I just built, jonas-4.3.3-1jpp_3fc, actually a) runs > and b) serves pages! Congratulations, Gary! Andrew From gbenson at redhat.com Fri Jun 24 14:31:26 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:31:26 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050624142056.GA13387@redhat.com> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <20050624142056.GA13387@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050624143126.GD4894@redhat.com> Andrew Overholt wrote: > * Gary Benson [2005-06-24 10:06]: > > > > Those of you who are interested in JOnAS might like to know that > > the version I just built, jonas-4.3.3-1jpp_3fc, actually a) runs > > and b) serves pages! > > Congratulations, Gary! Thanks! :) From mark at klomp.org Fri Jun 24 17:42:50 2005 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:42:50 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 15:06 +0100, Gary Benson wrote: > Those of you who are interested in JOnAS might like to know that > the version I just built, jonas-4.3.3-1jpp_3fc, actually a) runs > and b) serves pages! It's very crunchy at the moment, but any > testing will be sorely appreciated. Cool. Some things that I had to do after yum install jonas: - yum install geronimo-specs - yum install howl-logger - Make a symlinks for howl-logger and postgresql-jdbc3 from /usr/share/java to /usr/share/jonas/lib/commons/jonas/ - Remove the dbm service as you said (maybe the postresql drivers weren't needed after all) Then it seems to startup, although it complains about not being able to find a3cmlconfig and a3servers.xml. And I get some PermissionManagerExceptions since the PolicyConfigurationFactoryWrapper cannot be found. Unfortunately after poking a bit at port 9000 with the webbrowser it seems to die without giving me any real feedback except 'JOnAS server jonas unreachable'. After that I need to kill some processes to try and start it again. Cheers, Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From overholt at redhat.com Fri Jun 24 18:38:06 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:38:06 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Eclipse 3.1RC3 RPMs In-Reply-To: References: <20050620205753.GA32109@redhat.com> <20050623153040.GB5249@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1119638286.32688.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-24-06 at 05:01 -0500, Justin Conover wrote: > I can hold off, I was just going to test it for you. Thanks! I just finished (I hope!) with my file list munging and bash hackery and the build finished in the build system. This will get pushed to rawhide tomorrow so if you can test then, I'd really appreciate it. Andrew From justin.conover at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 00:01:45 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:01:45 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] Eclipse 3.1RC3 RPMs In-Reply-To: <1119638286.32688.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050620205753.GA32109@redhat.com> <20050623153040.GB5249@redhat.com> <1119638286.32688.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 6/24/05, Andrew Overholt wrote: > On Fri, 2005-24-06 at 05:01 -0500, Justin Conover wrote: > > I can hold off, I was just going to test it for you. > > Thanks! I just finished (I hope!) with my file list munging and bash > hackery and the build finished in the build system. This will get > pushed to rawhide tomorrow so if you can test then, I'd really > appreciate it. > > Andrew > > Will do. From mark at klomp.org Sat Jun 25 23:32:19 2005 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:32:19 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 19:42 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Unfortunately after poking a bit at port 9000 with the webbrowser it > seems to die without giving me any real feedback except 'JOnAS server > jonas unreachable'. After that I need to kill some processes to try and > start it again. I did a yum upgrade and it gave me new jonas and jonas-client packages. And they work! At least the /jonasAdmin things work (after guessing the user/password). I can even add new http connectors (although https doesn't seem to work yet) and query lots of the installed MBeans. As you said the graphs don't work yet and seem to crash the server since it tries to access our AWT gtk+ peers that want a Display connected. We need to figure out how to work in headless mode for server-side things. JSPs seem broken since the compiler somehow seems to get a wrong classpath. It cannot find any imports like javax.servlet.*, org.objectweb.jonas.*, ... There must be some classpath property set wrongly by I haven't figured out where/what. It takes a while before it all starts up. But it feels pretty smooth when it actually runs. Great work! The amount of dependencies is amazing. Does someone have a graph of them, or is it easy to create a picture of the rpm dependency graph somehow? It would be fun to have one for Eclipse and Jonas. Cheers, Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Whatever you do using Fedora / gcj / classpath should be compatible, using the same property. []s, Fernando Lozano From gbenson at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 08:29:39 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:29:39 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <42bf092f.273.1627f.696085308@lozano.eti.br> References: <42bf092f.273.1627f.696085308@lozano.eti.br> Message-ID: <20050627082938.GA5223@redhat.com> fernando at lozano.eti.br wrote: > > As you said the graphs don't work yet and seem to crash the server > > since it tries to access our AWT gtk+ peers that want a Display > > connected. We need to figure out how to work in headless mode for > > server-side things. > > Sun Java has the same problem, they added to 1.4 the system property > java.awt.headless. Whatever you do using Fedora / gcj / classpath > should be compatible, using the same property. It's set already, in /usr/bin/jonas. Something's ignoring it :-/ Cheers, Gary From gbenson at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 08:36:41 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:36:41 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> Mark Wielaard wrote: > JSPs seem broken since the compiler somehow seems to get a wrong > classpath. It cannot find any imports like javax.servlet.*, > org.objectweb.jonas.*, ... There must be some classpath property set > wrongly by I haven't figured out where/what. Isn't jonasAdmin all JSPs? Certainly there's loads of JSP stuff in my classloader log... > It takes a while before it all starts up. I'm going to aot-compile the stuff that's being hit, to hopefully speed that up. > But it feels pretty smooth when it actually runs. Great work! Thank you. Thanks to everyone who's helped me too :) > The amount of dependencies is amazing. Does someone have a graph of > them, or is it easy to create a picture of the rpm dependency graph > somehow? It would be fun to have one for Eclipse and Jonas. The graphs get very messy. I've done them separately for ant, tomcat and jonas, but never all together. Cheers, Gary From Nicolas.Mailhot at laPoste.net Mon Jun 27 08:44:49 2005 From: Nicolas.Mailhot at laPoste.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:44:49 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le lundi 27 juin 2005 ? 09:36 +0100, Gary Benson a ?crit : > The graphs get very messy. I've done them separately for ant, tomcat > and jonas, but never all together. Would be great to post them on jpackage-discuss - people often do not realise what a new release means (and a new release means getting at least ant and tomcat right) Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gbenson at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 08:55:56 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:55:56 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le lundi 27 juin 2005 ? 09:36 +0100, Gary Benson a ?crit : > > The graphs get very messy. I've done them separately for ant, > > tomcat and jonas, but never all together. > > Would be great to post them on jpackage-discuss - people often do > not realise what a new release means (and a new release means > getting at least ant and tomcat right) Ok, I'll post them next time I make a set... Cheers, Gary From A.J.Delaney at brighton.ac.uk Mon Jun 27 10:35:36 2005 From: A.J.Delaney at brighton.ac.uk (A.J.Delaney at brighton.ac.uk) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:35:36 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] System freeze when running Eclipse as root Message-ID: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> Hey all, I know it shouldn't be done, but we ran Eclipse as root. It seemed to freeze the whole system, mouse pointer, keyboard input etc... No kernel panic was produced and Eclipse runs fine as a normal user. Is this well known behaviour for eclipse? -- Aidan Delaney Lecturer, School of Computing, Mathematics and Information Sciences, University of Brighton. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From aph at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 10:38:24 2005 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:38:24 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] System freeze when running Eclipse as root In-Reply-To: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> References: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> Message-ID: <17087.55072.680890.389962@zapata.pink> A.J.Delaney at brighton.ac.uk writes: > Hey all, > I know it shouldn't be done, but we ran Eclipse as root. It seemed to > freeze the whole system, mouse pointer, keyboard input etc... No kernel > panic was produced and Eclipse runs fine as a normal user. Is this well > known behaviour for eclipse? Yeah, we know. I'm hoping to get together this week with one of the kernel architects to debug the problem. Andrew. From tromey at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 14:12:25 2005 From: tromey at redhat.com (Tom Tromey) Date: 27 Jun 2005 08:12:25 -0600 Subject: [fedora-java] System freeze when running Eclipse as root In-Reply-To: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> References: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> Message-ID: >>>>> "Aidan" == A J Delaney writes: Aidan> I know it shouldn't be done, but we ran Eclipse as root. It seemed to Aidan> freeze the whole system, mouse pointer, keyboard input etc... No kernel Aidan> panic was produced and Eclipse runs fine as a normal user. Is this well Aidan> known behaviour for eclipse? There's a PR for this in case you want to follow it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=152386 Tom From tromey at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 15:14:38 2005 From: tromey at redhat.com (Tom Tromey) Date: 27 Jun 2005 09:14:38 -0600 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050627082938.GA5223@redhat.com> References: <42bf092f.273.1627f.696085308@lozano.eti.br> <20050627082938.GA5223@redhat.com> Message-ID: >> Sun Java has the same problem, they added to 1.4 the system property >> java.awt.headless. Whatever you do using Fedora / gcj / classpath >> should be compatible, using the same property. Gary> It's set already, in /usr/bin/jonas. Something's ignoring it :-/ I'm sure Gary knows this already, but for the benefit of the record, AFAIK Classpath (and hence libgcj) does not yet implement headless AWT operation. Tom From gbenson at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 15:23:32 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:23:32 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: References: <42bf092f.273.1627f.696085308@lozano.eti.br> <20050627082938.GA5223@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050627152332.GA18864@redhat.com> Tom Tromey wrote: > > > Sun Java has the same problem, they added to 1.4 the system > > > property java.awt.headless. Whatever you do using Fedora / gcj / > > > classpath should be compatible, using the same property. > > Gary> It's set already, in /usr/bin/jonas. Something's ignoring it :-/ > > I'm sure Gary knows this already, but for the benefit of the record, > AFAIK Classpath (and hence libgcj) does not yet implement headless > AWT operation. Gary didn't know ;) From dexter at beetjevreemd.nl Mon Jun 27 19:48:25 2005 From: dexter at beetjevreemd.nl (DeXteR) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:48:25 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] System freeze when running Eclipse as root In-Reply-To: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> References: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> Message-ID: <42C05809.1010000@beetjevreemd.nl> A.J.Delaney at brighton.ac.uk wrote: >Hey all, > I know it shouldn't be done, but we ran Eclipse as root. It seemed to >freeze the whole system, mouse pointer, keyboard input etc... No kernel >panic was produced and Eclipse runs fine as a normal user. Is this well >known behaviour for eclipse? > > > This indied is a quite nasty feature. I hava a workaround which allso fixes some other fedora-built eclipse bugs: Start eclipse with Suns java VM. (eclipse /wm ) Of course this is rather weird couse I develop programs on GCJ. But this fixes some bugs, won't freeze it as root and even loads faster. /Arjen From overholt at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 20:04:26 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:04:26 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] System freeze when running Eclipse as root In-Reply-To: <42C05809.1010000@beetjevreemd.nl> References: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> <42C05809.1010000@beetjevreemd.nl> Message-ID: <1119902666.16500.1.camel@tofu.toronto.redhat.com> On Mon, 2005-27-06 at 21:48 +0200, DeXteR wrote: > I hava a workaround which allso fixes some other fedora-built eclipse bugs: > Start eclipse with Suns java VM. > (eclipse /wm ) That should be eclipse -vm Can you file the bugs that you found? Or are they already filed? Thanks, Andrew From sopwith at redhat.com Mon Jun 27 20:52:47 2005 From: sopwith at redhat.com (Elliot Lee) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:52:47 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder Message-ID: This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and the purpose of each list. You can view this information at http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ When you're using these mailing lists, please take the time to choose the one that is most appropriate to your post. If you don't know the right mailing list to use for a question or discussion, please contact me. This will help you get the best possible answer for your question, and keep other list subscribers happy! Mailing Lists Mailing lists are email addresses which send email to all users subscribed to the mailing list. Sending an email to a mailing list reaches all users interested in discussing a specific topic and users available to help other users with the topic. 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For the 1st time, i am planning to install J2SE5.0 on Fedora Core 4 to run Tomcat5.5. Is there anything that i should be aware of...any experience ? Thanks, -Uday. From dexter at beetjevreemd.nl Tue Jun 28 11:47:47 2005 From: dexter at beetjevreemd.nl (DeXteR) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:47:47 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] System freeze when running Eclipse as root In-Reply-To: <1119902666.16500.1.camel@tofu.toronto.redhat.com> References: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> <42C05809.1010000@beetjevreemd.nl> <1119902666.16500.1.camel@tofu.toronto.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42C138E3.5080703@beetjevreemd.nl> Andrew Overholt wrote: >On Mon, 2005-27-06 at 21:48 +0200, DeXteR wrote: > > >>(eclipse /wm ) >> >> > >That should be eclipse -vm > > Tralala.... :P BIG OOPS!! >Can you file the bugs that you found? Or are they already filed? > > I cannot find them, nor the couse. I am still investigating what the couse is, or what the solution could be. As far as I can tell now it gives a error on the code templates in the preferences menu. A known problem? /Arjen From mark at klomp.org Tue Jun 28 11:56:00 2005 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:56:00 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 09:55 +0100, Gary Benson wrote: > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le lundi 27 juin 2005 ? 09:36 +0100, Gary Benson a ?crit : > > > The graphs get very messy. I've done them separately for ant, > > > tomcat and jonas, but never all together. > > > > Would be great to post them on jpackage-discuss - people often do > > not realise what a new release means (and a new release means > > getting at least ant and tomcat right) > > Ok, I'll post them next time I make a set... Could you post instructions on how to make such a set? It doesn't have to be some fancy graph. Just a list of all dependencies/packages would be nice. I assume yum/rpm actually has them. I hope there is some easy way to get a list starting from the jonas or eclipse-platform package. Cheers, Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gbenson at redhat.com Tue Jun 28 12:39:22 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:39:22 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 09:55 +0100, Gary Benson wrote: > > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Le lundi 27 juin 2005 ? 09:36 +0100, Gary Benson a ?crit : > > > > The graphs get very messy. I've done them separately for ant, > > > > tomcat and jonas, but never all together. > > > > > > Would be great to post them on jpackage-discuss - people often > > > do not realise what a new release means (and a new release means > > > getting at least ant and tomcat right) > > > > Ok, I'll post them next time I make a set... > > Could you post instructions on how to make such a set? It doesn't > have to be some fancy graph. Just a list of all > dependencies/packages would be nice. I assume yum/rpm actually has > them. I hope there is some easy way to get a list starting from the > jonas or eclipse-platform package. I've generally written scripts to query the rpm database and/or a directory full of rpms and emit graphviz files for printing. Generally the scripts will start with a package at the top of the tree (tomcat5-admin-webapps, for example, or lately jonas-examples) and work their way down through whatever set of dependencies I was interested in and ignoring whatever set of things I didn't want to see. I attached an example, so you can see what I mean. If I recall, it draws a graph of the runtime dependencies of the packages I maintain in FC4, with subpackages treated as separate entities. Hope that helps, Gary -------------- next part -------------- import rpm import os class Package: def __init__(self, name): self.name = name class PackageSet: def __init__(self, path): self.pkgs, self.requires, self.provides = {}, {}, {} os.path.walk(path, PackageSet.__find_rpms, self) for pkg in self.pkgs.values(): requires = {} for require in self.requires[pkg.name]: if self.provides.has_key(require): if self.provides[require] == pkg.name: continue if self.provides[require] == "jpackage-utils": continue if self.provides[require] == "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat" and \ pkg.name not in ("java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel", "eclipse-ecj"): continue requires[self.provides[require]] = 1 else: assert is_ignorable(require) requires = requires.keys() requires.sort() pkg.requires = requires def __find_rpms(self, dir, items): for item in items: if item.endswith(".rpm") and not item.endswith(".src.rpm"): self.__add_rpm(os.path.join(dir, item)) def __add_rpm(self, path): fd = os.open(path, os.O_RDONLY) try: hdr = rpm.TransactionSet().hdrFromFdno(fd) finally: os.close(fd) assert type(hdr) == rpm.hdr name = hdr["name"] assert not self.pkgs.has_key(name) self.pkgs[name] = Package(name) assert not self.requires.has_key(name) self.requires[name] = hdr["requirename"] if name in ("tomcat5", "tomcat5-jasper"): self.requires[name].remove("jakarta-commons-daemon") if name == "tomcat5": self.requires[name].append("puretls") for provide in hdr["providename"]: if (name, provide) == ("xerces-j2", "jaxp_parser_impl"): continue assert not self.provides.has_key(provide) self.provides[provide] = name def graph(self, start): nodes, edges = {}, [] for node in start: nodes[node] = False while True: todo = [k for k, v in nodes.items() if not v] if not todo: break for name in todo: pkg = self.pkgs[name] for require in pkg.requires: edges.append((name, require)) if not nodes.has_key(require): nodes[require] = False nodes[name] = True return edges def is_ignorable(dep): if dep.startswith("/"): return True if dep.startswith("rpmlib("): return True if dep.startswith("lib") and dep.find(".so") != -1: return True if dep in ("gcc-java", "gjdoc", "httpd-mmn", "libgcj", "libgcj-src"): return True return False if __name__ == "__main__": import glob, sys [path] = glob.glob(os.path.join(os.path.split( os.path.abspath( sys.argv[0]))[0], "pkgs-*")) pkgs = PackageSet(path) print "// Runtime dependencies for FC4 Java stack" print "// dot -Tps graph.dot -o graph.ps" print print "digraph G {" print ' page="8.27, 11.69";' print ' ratio="fill";' for requirer, provider in pkgs.graph( ("tomcat5", "tomcat5-webapps", "tomcat5-admin-webapps", "avalon-logkit")): print ' "%s" -> "%s";' % (requirer, provider) print "}" -------------- next part -------------- // Runtime dependencies for FC4 Java stack // dot -Tps graph.dot -o graph.ps digraph G { page="8.27, 11.69"; ratio="fill"; "avalon-logkit" -> "avalon-framework"; "avalon-logkit" -> "tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api"; "tomcat5" -> "ant"; "tomcat5" -> "classpathx-jaf"; "tomcat5" -> "classpathx-mail"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-beanutils"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-collections"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-dbcp"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-digester"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-el"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-fileupload"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-launcher"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-logging"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-modeler"; "tomcat5" -> "jakarta-commons-pool"; "tomcat5" -> "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel"; "tomcat5" -> "ldapjdk"; "tomcat5" -> "mx4j"; "tomcat5" -> "puretls"; "tomcat5" -> "regexp"; "tomcat5" -> "tomcat5-jasper"; "tomcat5" -> "tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api"; "tomcat5" -> "xerces-j2"; "tomcat5" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "tomcat5-admin-webapps" -> "struts11"; "tomcat5-admin-webapps" -> "tomcat5"; "tomcat5-webapps" -> "jakarta-taglibs-standard"; "tomcat5-webapps" -> "tomcat5"; "jakarta-commons-beanutils" -> "jakarta-commons-collections"; "jakarta-commons-beanutils" -> "jakarta-commons-logging"; "jakarta-commons-pool" -> "jakarta-commons-collections"; "ant" -> "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel"; "tomcat5-jasper" -> "ant"; "tomcat5-jasper" -> "jakarta-commons-collections"; "tomcat5-jasper" -> "jakarta-commons-el"; "tomcat5-jasper" -> "jakarta-commons-logging"; "tomcat5-jasper" -> "tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api"; "tomcat5-jasper" -> "xerces-j2"; "tomcat5-jasper" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "ldapjdk" -> "gnu-crypto-sasl-jdk1.4"; "ldapjdk" -> "oro"; "xerces-j2" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "xerces-j2" -> "xml-commons-resolver"; "jakarta-taglibs-standard" -> "tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api"; "avalon-framework" -> "xalan-j2"; "avalon-framework" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "jakarta-commons-fileupload" -> "tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api"; "xml-commons-apis" -> "xml-commons"; "mx4j" -> "bcel"; "mx4j" -> "classpathx-jaf"; "mx4j" -> "classpathx-mail"; "mx4j" -> "gnu-crypto-jce-jdk1.4"; "mx4j" -> "jakarta-commons-logging"; "mx4j" -> "junit"; "mx4j" -> "log4j"; "mx4j" -> "xml-commons"; "mx4j" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "mx4j" -> "xml-commons-resolver"; "jakarta-commons-digester" -> "jakarta-commons-beanutils"; "jakarta-commons-digester" -> "jakarta-commons-collections"; "jakarta-commons-digester" -> "jakarta-commons-logging"; "jakarta-commons-dbcp" -> "jakarta-commons-collections"; "jakarta-commons-dbcp" -> "jakarta-commons-pool"; "struts11" -> "jakarta-commons-beanutils"; "struts11" -> "jakarta-commons-digester"; "struts11" -> "jakarta-commons-fileupload"; "struts11" -> "jakarta-commons-validator"; "struts11" -> "oro"; "struts11" -> "tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api"; "jakarta-commons-modeler" -> "jakarta-commons-beanutils"; "jakarta-commons-modeler" -> "jakarta-commons-collections"; "jakarta-commons-modeler" -> "jakarta-commons-digester"; "jakarta-commons-modeler" -> "jakarta-commons-logging"; "jakarta-commons-modeler" -> "mx4j"; "jakarta-commons-modeler" -> "xalan-j2"; "jakarta-commons-modeler" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel" -> "eclipse-ecj"; "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel" -> "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat"; "classpathx-mail" -> "classpathx-jaf"; "classpathx-mail" -> "gnu-crypto-jce-jdk1.4"; "classpathx-mail" -> "gnu-crypto-sasl-jdk1.4"; "puretls" -> "cryptix"; "puretls" -> "cryptix-asn1"; "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat" -> "gnu-crypto"; "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat" -> "gnu-crypto-jce-jdk1.4"; "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat" -> "gnu-crypto-sasl-jdk1.4"; "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat" -> "jessie"; "xml-commons-resolver" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "cryptix-asn1" -> "cryptix"; "bcel" -> "regexp"; "eclipse-ecj" -> "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat"; "log4j" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "jakarta-commons-validator" -> "jakarta-commons-beanutils"; "jakarta-commons-validator" -> "jakarta-commons-collections"; "jakarta-commons-validator" -> "jakarta-commons-digester"; "jakarta-commons-validator" -> "jakarta-commons-logging"; "jakarta-commons-validator" -> "oro"; "jakarta-commons-validator" -> "xml-commons-apis"; "jessie" -> "gnu-crypto"; "jessie" -> "gnu-crypto-jce-jdk1.4"; "jessie" -> "gnu-crypto-sasl-jdk1.4"; "gnu-crypto" -> "gnu-crypto-jce-jdk1.4"; "gnu-crypto" -> "gnu-crypto-sasl-jdk1.4"; } -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Certainly there's loads of JSP stuff in my > classloader log... http://localhost:9000/jonasAdmin/ seems to work fine. But for http://localhost:9000/ I always get the attached error message. (Same output as in /var/log/jonas/jonas) Cheers, Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From justin.conover at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 12:47:42 2005 From: justin.conover at gmail.com (Justin Conover) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:47:42 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: rawhide report: 20050628 changes In-Reply-To: <200506281115.j5SBFkAf020187@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> References: <200506281115.j5SBFkAf020187@porkchop.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On 6/28/05, Build System wrote: Please fix so I can have my cup of java :D yum groupinstall "Eclipse" --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: java-1.4.2-gcj-compat = 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_30rh for package: java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: java-1.4.2-gcj-compat = 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp_30rh is needed by package java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-devel fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list at redhat.com To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From gbenson at redhat.com Tue Jun 28 13:10:25 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:10:25 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1119961834.5565.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119961834.5565.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050628131024.GB5031@redhat.com> Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 09:36 +0100, Gary Benson wrote: > > Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > JSPs seem broken since the compiler somehow seems to get a wrong > > > classpath. It cannot find any imports like javax.servlet.*, > > > org.objectweb.jonas.*, ... There must be some classpath property > > > set wrongly by I haven't figured out where/what. > > > > Isn't jonasAdmin all JSPs? Certainly there's loads of JSP stuff > > in my classloader log... > > http://localhost:9000/jonasAdmin/ seems to work fine. But for > http://localhost:9000/ I always get the attached error message. > (Same output as in /var/log/jonas/jonas) Ah, I just started getting those this morning, after upgrading eclipse-ecj. For some reason the java.util.StringTokenizer used to parse the classpaths _sometimes_ fails. Of course, by "sometimes" I mean, "whenever I'm not trying to make it fail". Hopefully Mr Overholt has some idea what happened, as I'm not looking forward to trying to debug it... Cheers, Gary From mikeb at redhat.com Tue Jun 28 15:15:07 2005 From: mikeb at redhat.com (Mike Bonnet) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:15:07 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] J2SE5.0 running on Fedora Core 4 In-Reply-To: <42C12E87.3070706@comcast.net> References: <42C12E87.3070706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1119971708.8337.19.camel@burren.boston.redhat.com> > For the 1st time, i am planning to install J2SE5.0 on Fedora Core 4 to > run Tomcat5.5. Is there anything that i should be aware of...any > experience ? I've recently seen issues running Tomcat under Sun J2SE 5.0 Update 3 on RHEL3 and RHEL4 (I haven't tried to reproduce the problem on FC4). It appears to be a bug in the garbage collector, so I would expect to see the same behavior on FC4. When running under heavy load, the garbage collector thread would segfault, crashing the whole JVM. A gdb backtrace looked like this: (gdb) bt #0 0xb6f7cad4 in OopTaskQueueSet::steal_best_of_2 () from /opt/jdk1.5.0_03/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so #1 0xb6f7c882 in OopTaskQueueSet::steal () from /opt/jdk1.5.0_03/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so #2 0xb6f3f3ed in StealTask::do_it () from /opt/jdk1.5.0_03/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so #3 0xb6d13baf in GCTaskThread::run () from /opt/jdk1.5.0_03/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so #4 0xb6f03a78 in _start () from /opt/jdk1.5.0_03/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so #5 0xb75cfde8 in start_thread () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 #6 0xb756c93a in clone () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 When running with about 15 concurrent, processor-intensive requests, the crash was reproducible in about 5-10 minutes. I only saw this crash when running with the "server" JVM (auto-selected in J2SE 5.0 if your machine has more than one processor or > 2G or RAM, or via the -server command-line flag), preliminary tests using the "client" JVM could not reproduce the error. You may not run into this problem at all, based on your particular application, but it's something to keep an eye open for. From overholt at redhat.com Tue Jun 28 19:30:53 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:30:53 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] System freeze when running Eclipse as root In-Reply-To: <42C138E3.5080703@beetjevreemd.nl> References: <1119868536.3038.19.camel@mowa423-lxajd9> <42C05809.1010000@beetjevreemd.nl> <1119902666.16500.1.camel@tofu.toronto.redhat.com> <42C138E3.5080703@beetjevreemd.nl> Message-ID: <1119987053.22908.1.camel@tophat.toronto.redhat.com> On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 13:47 +0200, DeXteR wrote: > >Can you file the bugs that you found? Or are they already filed? > > > I cannot find them, nor the couse. You mean all the bugs you previously hit are now fixed? > I am still investigating what the > couse is, or what the solution could be. As far as I can tell now it > gives a error on the code templates in the preferences menu. A known > problem? There was an issue with gcj releases earlier than 4.0.0-9 (I _think_) with code templates. Andrew From mark at klomp.org Tue Jun 28 21:09:36 2005 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:09:36 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 13:39 +0100, Gary Benson wrote: > I've generally written scripts to query the rpm database and/or a > directory full of rpms and emit graphviz files for printing. Wow! I just tried making graphs showing eclipse and jonas dependencies ignoring anything not (indirectly) depending on gcj. http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/index.php?p=97 I am not sure I have a better overview now. And I didn't even include any eclipse plugins or the jonas examples. But I do have a lot more respect for our packagers! Cheers, Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From overholt at redhat.com Tue Jun 28 21:58:45 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:58:45 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Weird ecj + utf8 issue Message-ID: <1119995925.23504.12.camel@tophat.toronto.redhat.com> I came across a weird issue while trying to build rssowl. I've attached the test file. Trying this works: ecj RSSOwlI18nZHtw.java while this appears to hang: ecj -encoding utf8 RSSOwlI18nZHtw.java I can reproduce this behaviour on both an x86 box running an Eclipse 3.1 ecj (built myself) and on a ppc box running Eclipse 3.1 RC3 (the RPMs we have in rawhide). Using Sun's javac (on the x86 box) does not hang when I use "-encoding utf8". All are FC4 machines (with gcc*-4.0.0-11 in the x86 case and gcc*-4.0.0-13 in the ppc case). To add to the bizarre-ness, this appears to be as small as I can make the test file without it being unable to reproduce the problem; I can't seem to remove any of the lines if I want to continue to reproduce. In another interesting twist, renaming the file (and class) to "TestUTF8" does not reproduce the problem. Anyone know what's going on? Andrew -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I just tried making graphs showing eclipse and jonas > dependencies ignoring anything not (indirectly) depending > on gcj. http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/index.php?p=97 > > I am not sure I have a better overview now. And I didn't even > include any eclipse plugins or the jonas examples. Heh, most of the changes between the different graphing scripts are down to me trying to ignore huge sets of stuff so I actually get something meaningful out of it :) How'd you get graphviz to plot square graphs anyway? It always makes long thin ones whenever I try... http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/index.php?p=97: > But how any packager is going to stay sane is beyond me Well, quite :) From green at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 11:06:53 2005 From: green at redhat.com (Anthony Green) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:06:53 -0700 Subject: [fedora-java] Weird ecj + utf8 issue In-Reply-To: <1119995925.23504.12.camel@tophat.toronto.redhat.com> References: <1119995925.23504.12.camel@tophat.toronto.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1120043213.3342.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 17:58 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > I can reproduce this behaviour on both an x86 box running an Eclipse 3.1 > ecj (built myself) and on a ppc box running Eclipse 3.1 RC3 (the RPMs we > have in rawhide). For what it's worth, I can't reproduce this on a vanilla x86 FC4 machine. $ rpm -qf /usr/bin/ecj eclipse-ecj-3.1.0_fc-0.M6.22 Did you try breaking into the hanging process with gdb to see what it's doing? AG From mark at klomp.org Wed Jun 29 12:00:01 2005 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:00:01 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 09:47 +0100, Gary Benson wrote: > How'd you get graphviz to plot square graphs anyway? It always > makes long thin ones whenever I try... dot -Nshape=box -Gfontname=Courier There are lots and lots of options. And I tried to use some more and some of the other algorithms to get a more sane readable graph. But this was the best I could do, everything else actually made the graphs more messy. See also: http://www.graphviz.org/cvs/doc/info/attrs.html Cheers, Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From aph at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 13:20:31 2005 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:20:31 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> OK, for anyone trying to install on FC4, this works: sudo rpm -Uhv jonas-* axis-1.2.1-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm carol-1.8.9.3-1jpp_2fc.i386.rpm castor-0.9.5-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm gif89encoder-0.90-0.b.1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm howl-logger-0.1.8-1jpp_2fc.i386.rpm hsqldb-1.73.0-2jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm jacorb-2.2-3jpp_2fc.i386.rpm jakarta-commons-discovery-0.3-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm jgroups-2.2.6-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm joram-4.1.5-1jpp_2fc.noarch.rpm jonathan-core-4.1-1jpp_2fc.noarch.rpm jonathan-jeremie-4.2-1jpp_2fc.noarch.rpm jonathan-rmi-3.1-3.i386.rpm monolog-1.8.6-1jpp_2fc.noarch.rpm mx4j-3.0.1-1jpp_3fc.i386.rpm jotm-2.0.5-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm objectweb-anttask-1.2-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm oldkilim-1.1.3-2jpp_2fc.i386.rpm p6spy-1.3-2jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm struts-1.2.4-2jpp_1fc.i386.rpm tomcat5-5.0.30-6jpp_1fc.i386.rpm tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api-5.0.30-6jpp_1fc.i386.rpm tomcat5-jasper-5.0.30-6jpp_1fc.i386.rpm velocity-1.4-3jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm wsdl4j-1.5.1-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm xdoclet-1.2.2-2jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm xjavadoc-1.1-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm jakarta-commons-httpclient-3.0-0.rc2.0jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm jakarta-commons-cli-1.0-6jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm nanoxml-lite-2.2.3-3jpp_2fc.noarch.rpm adaptx-0.9.6-1jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm concurrent-1.3.2-2jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm tanukiwrapper-3.1.1-4jpp_1fc.i386.rpm bsh-1.3.0-5jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm gnu.regexp-1.1.4-7jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm werken.xpath-0.9.4-0.beta.9jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm jdom-1.0-1jpp_2fc.noarch.rpm mockobjects-0.09-11jpp_2fc.noarch.rpm bsf-2.3.0-6jpp_2fc.noarch.rpm jrefactory-2.8.9-3jpp_1fc.noarch.rpm geronimo-specs-compat-1.0-0.M2.2jpp_2fc.i386.rpm But I get Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api########################################### [ 2%] 2:monolog ########################################### [ 4%] 3:geronimo-specs-compat ########################################### [ 7%] 4:nanoxml-lite ########################################### [ 9%] 5:oldkilim ########################################### [ 11%] 6:jonathan-core ########################################### [ 13%] 7:jonathan-jeremie 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49%] 23:xdoclet ########################################### [ 51%] 24:gnu.regexp ########################################### [ 53%] 25:p6spy ########################################### [ 56%] 26:tanukiwrapper ########################################### [ 58%] 27:jacorb ########################################### [ 60%] 28:adaptx ########################################### [ 62%] 29:castor ########################################### [ 64%] 30:jakarta-commons-cli ########################################### [ 67%] 31:carol ########################################### [ 69%] 32:jakarta-commons-httpcli########################################### [ 71%] 33:axis ########################################### [ 73%] 34:mx4j ########################################### [ 76%] 35:joram ########################################### [ 78%] 36:tomcat5 ########################################### [ 80%] 37:objectweb-anttask ########################################### [ 82%] 38:jotm ########################################### [ 84%] 39:jonathan-rmi ########################################### [ 87%] 40:howl-logger ########################################### [ 89%] 41:gif89encoder ########################################### [ 91%] 42:jonas-client ########################################### [ 93%] 43:jonas ########################################### [ 96%] 44:jonas-docs ########################################### [ 98%] 45:jonas-examples ########################################### [100%] postmaster starting createdb: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5433"? psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5433"? psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5433"? pg_ctl: PID file "/usr/share/jonas/pgsql/postmaster.pid" does not exist Is postmaster running? From aph at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 13:29:13 2005 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:29:13 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> References: <20050624140629.GB4894@redhat.com> <1119634970.15705.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> Message-ID: <17090.41513.174350.843666@zapata.pink> There was a missing dependency: geronimo-specs-1.0-0.M2.2jpp_2fc.i386.rpm From overholt at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 13:31:20 2005 From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:31:20 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> References: <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> Message-ID: <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> * Andrew Haley [2005-06-29 09:20]: > sudo rpm -Uhv [...] Couldn't you just: yum --enablerepo=development install jonas-examples ? Doing that, I get: Dependencies Resolved ============================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ============================================================================= Installing: jonas-examples noarch 4.3.3-1jpp_3fc development 7.9 M Installing for dependencies: adaptx noarch 0.9.6-1jpp_1fc development 238 k axis noarch 1.2.1-1jpp_1fc development 1.5 M bsf noarch 2.3.0-6jpp_2fc development 135 k bsh noarch 1.3.0-5jpp_1fc development 238 k carol ppc 1.8.9.3-1jpp_4fc development 883 k castor noarch 0.9.5-1jpp_1fc development 1.4 M concurrent noarch 1.3.2-2jpp_1fc development 273 k geronimo-specs-compat ppc 1.0-0.M2.2jpp_2fc development 3.7 k gif89encoder noarch 0.90-0.b.1jpp_1fc development 15 k gnu.regexp noarch 1.1.4-7jpp_1fc development 57 k howl-logger ppc 0.1.8-1jpp_2fc development 141 k hsqldb noarch 1.73.0-2jpp_1fc development 557 k jacorb ppc 2.2-3jpp_2fc development 8.9 M jakarta-commons-cli noarch 1.0-6jpp_1fc development 31 k jakarta-commons-discovery noarch 1:0.3-1jpp_1fc development 71 k jgroups noarch 2.2.6-1jpp_1fc development 1.4 M jonas noarch 4.3.3-1jpp_3fc development 16 M jonas-client noarch 4.3.3-1jpp_3fc development 18 M jonathan-core ppc 4.1-1jpp_3fc development 252 k jonathan-jeremie ppc 4.2-1jpp_3fc development 437 k jonathan-rmi ppc 3.1-3 development 22 k joram ppc 4.1.5-1jpp_3fc development 1.8 M jotm ppc 2.0.5-1jpp_2fc development 303 k jrefactory noarch 2.8.9-3jpp_1fc development 1.6 M mockobjects noarch 0.09-11jpp_2fc development 53 k monolog ppc 1.8.6-1jpp_3fc development 435 k nanoxml-lite noarch 2.2.3-3jpp_2fc development 8.8 k objectweb-anttask noarch 1.2-1jpp_1fc development 20 k oldkilim ppc 1.1.3-2jpp_2fc development 226 k p6spy ppc 1.3-2jpp_2fc development 259 k postgresql-jdbc ppc 8.0.3-1 development 889 k tanukiwrapper ppc 3.1.1-4jpp_1fc development 121 k velocity noarch 1.4-3jpp_1fc development 340 k werken.xpath noarch 0.9.4-0.beta.9jpp_1fc development 74 k wsdl4j noarch 1.5.1-1jpp_1fc development 120 k xdoclet noarch 1.2.2-2jpp_1fc development 1.1 M xjavadoc noarch 1.1-1jpp_1fc development 216 k Updating for dependencies: mx4j ppc 1:3.0.1-1jpp_3fc development 2.2 M Other than the missing geronimo-specs dep, is that correct, Gary? Andrew From aph at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 13:38:26 2005 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:38:26 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> References: <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> Message-ID: <17090.42066.351389.918880@zapata.pink> Andrew Overholt writes: > * Andrew Haley [2005-06-29 09:20]: > > sudo rpm -Uhv [...] > > Couldn't you just: > > yum --enablerepo=development install jonas-examples ? > > Doing that, I get: I guess so. That list doesn't look any different, AFAICS. Andrew. From gbenson at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 13:44:41 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:44:41 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> References: <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20050629134440.GD4992@redhat.com> Andrew Overholt wrote: > * Andrew Haley [2005-06-29 09:20]: > > sudo rpm -Uhv [...] > > Couldn't you just: > > yum --enablerepo=development install jonas-examples ? > > Doing that, I get: > [snip] > > Other than the missing geronimo-specs dep, is that correct, Gary? Looks about right. From scop at jpackage.org Wed Jun 29 13:45:27 2005 From: scop at jpackage.org (Ville =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Skytt=E4?=) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:45:27 +0300 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: [JPackage-discuss] Re: postgresl-jdbc incompatible w/ Fedora Core In-Reply-To: References: <20050628200136.GE5537@pob> <1119993401.9688.268.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119993909.9688.274.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1120052727.9688.319.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 07:45 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Ville Skytt? wrote: > > IMO that would be too much dictating local policies from our part, and > > subject to inherent distributed bitrot because folks usually download > > jpackage.repo only once. And I'm sure this stuff would not be limited > > to postgresql-jdbc. > > I don't understand your argument. Are you saying that the file can > never be changed? No, I'm saying that once someone has downloaded and installed the file, it's currently very unlikely that (s)he'll be downloading it again later even if we'd keep frequently fine tuning it on the JPackage website. > Probably, it should be put into it's own package > in the Fedora repos. That could help some, yes. But the *.repo files are configuration files, and the first thing I do after installing one (no matter where it comes from, packaged or not) is to remove the mirrorlist key and make it use a nearby fixed mirror. So, after an updated jpackage.repo appears from a package, I'd have to remember to diff my local changes against it from .rpmsave, or rather probably from .rpmnew, and apply as appropriate. I'm not sure if this is really less work than just keeping the exclusions up to date the way I prefer and need, without getting packaged jpackage.repo updates at all. So, it can be done, but the way I see it, it's not a silver bullet. > There's a larger question here. What is the "co-existence strategy" > for JPackage and Fedora Core? That question is better answered by people who have been more active here lately, but my observation is that the current reality is more or less "the end user gets to choose and configure". > Out of curiosity, what distributions *don't* include the PostgreSQL > JDBC drivers? (I.e. why does the JPackage RPM exist?) Dunno. From mark at klomp.org Wed Jun 29 13:47:35 2005 From: mark at klomp.org (Mark Wielaard) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:47:35 +0200 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> References: <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1120052855.5565.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 09:31 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > Other than the missing geronimo-specs dep, is that correct, Gary? This are the steps that I had to do after yum install jonas: - yum install geronimo-specs - yum install howl-logger - Make a symlinks for howl-logger and postgresql-jdbc3 from /usr/share/java to /usr/share/jonas/lib/commons/jonas/ - Remove the dbm service from /etc/jonas/jonas.properties (maybe the postresql drivers weren't needed after all) Cheers, Mark P.S. Something seems to mangle the Reply-To header making it hard to keep following discussions here since a reply to all doesn't actually go to all. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From greenrd at presidium.org Wed Jun 29 13:44:37 2005 From: greenrd at presidium.org (Robin Green) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:44:37 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] rssowl: libgcj bugs that need fixing for it to run Message-ID: I have also been working in my spare time on packaging rssowl for FC5 [sic]. I can post my .spec file if wanted. Here's my list of unfixed libgcj bugs that need to be fixed before rssowl will run natively reliably. These are both threading bugs. 1. http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22211 "Thread.interrupt sometimes causes abort if thread is already dead" This gets hits about 25%-50% of the time on quitting rssowl, and occassionaly also when I press the little red stop button at the bottom of the window. I can provide a backtrace if wanted. Unfortunately rssowl only saves any changes upon quit, so this means that any changes (including preferences and even the record of which feed items have been read) will be lost 25-50% of the time - unacceptable, obviously. 2. http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13212 "AttachCurrentThread() not working" This is an old bug. It only triggered for me once I rebuilt gcc for Athlon (32bit) with a private threading patch, but now it triggers 100% of the time, every time I try to view the Dilbert comic in rssowl. Again, backtrace available on request. I am convinced that it is a real bug in the existing code, not a bug in my patch. After all, bad memory accesses don't always trigger SIGSEGVs. Sometimes they just cause memory corruptions. So probably, previously it was just causing memory corruptions instead of SIGSEGVs for some subtle reason. Feel free to add to this list. -- Robin From aph at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 13:57:43 2005 From: aph at redhat.com (Andrew Haley) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:57:43 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1120052855.5565.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> <1120052855.5565.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <17090.43223.916070.156011@zapata.pink> Mark Wielaard writes: > On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 09:31 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > > Other than the missing geronimo-specs dep, is that correct, Gary? > > This are the steps that I had to do after yum install jonas: > - yum install geronimo-specs > - yum install howl-logger > - Make a symlinks for howl-logger and postgresql-jdbc3 > from /usr/share/java to /usr/share/jonas/lib/commons/jonas/ I didn't do that. > - Remove the dbm service from /etc/jonas/jonas.properties > (maybe the postresql drivers weren't needed after all) Probably not. > P.S. Something seems to mangle the Reply-To header making it hard to > keep following discussions here since a reply to all doesn't actually go > to all. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Yeah. Abuse of "reply-to" in this way is awful. I long ago fixed my mailer always to ignore reply-to. Andrew. From tromey at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 13:53:20 2005 From: tromey at redhat.com (Tom Tromey) Date: 29 Jun 2005 07:53:20 -0600 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1120052855.5565.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1119742339.5566.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050627083641.GB5223@redhat.com> <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> <1120052855.5565.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Wielaard writes: Mark> - yum install howl-logger Mark> - Make a symlinks for howl-logger and postgresql-jdbc3 Mark> from /usr/share/java to /usr/share/jonas/lib/commons/jonas/ I think these two are already fixed. At least, an install yesterday picked up howl-logger for me, and both theses things appear in /usr/share/java Tom From gbenson at redhat.com Wed Jun 29 14:01:33 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:01:33 +0100 Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <1120052855.5565.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1119861889.8403.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20050627085556.GC5223@redhat.com> <1119959760.5565.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050628123921.GA5031@redhat.com> <1119992976.5565.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050629084700.GA4992@redhat.com> <1120046401.5565.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17090.40991.851187.389862@zapata.pink> <20050629133119.GA11076@redhat.com> <1120052855.5565.87.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050629140132.GE4992@redhat.com> Mark Wielaard wrote: > This are the steps that I had to do after yum install jonas: > - yum install geronimo-specs > - yum install howl-logger These two should be fixed now. > - Make a symlinks for howl-logger and postgresql-jdbc3 > from /usr/share/java to /usr/share/jonas/lib/commons/jonas/ > - Remove the dbm service from /etc/jonas/jonas.properties > (maybe the postresql drivers weren't needed after all) It ought to run with the dbm service enabled now. You need to 'service rhdb-jonas start' beforehand though. > P.S. Something seems to mangle the Reply-To header making it hard to > keep following discussions here since a reply to all doesn't > actually go to all. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html So it is. Fixed. I have mutt with reply-to demunging switched on :) From i.pilcher at comcast.net Wed Jun 29 12:45:01 2005 From: i.pilcher at comcast.net (Ian Pilcher) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:45:01 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: postgresl-jdbc incompatible w/ Fedora Core In-Reply-To: <1119993909.9688.274.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050628200136.GE5537@pob> <1119993401.9688.268.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119993909.9688.274.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Ville Skytt? wrote: > IMO that would be too much dictating local policies from our part, and > subject to inherent distributed bitrot because folks usually download > jpackage.repo only once. And I'm sure this stuff would not be limited > to postgresql-jdbc. I don't understand your argument. Are you saying that the file can never be changed? Probably, it should be put into it's own package in the Fedora repos. There's a larger question here. What is the "co-existence strategy" for JPackage and Fedora Core? I'm trying to figure out how to set up a Java development/Tomcat server environment on FC4, and I'm very unsure how to set things up so that yum doesn't eventually leave me with an incompatible mishmash of JPackage (Java) and Fedora (gcj) packages. > Maybe the FC postgresql-jdbc package could have a versioned Provides: > using the full version number (including the build) of the drivers it > contains, like the corresponding JPP one has in its version field? > Would that work the way you'd expect? (What would you expect, BTW?) Getting the Fedora postgresql-jdbc package to somehow reflect the version of the driver would be a good start. I'm not sure how to do this, though. I haven't had great luck getting responses to bugs that I put into Red Hat's bugzilla, let alone RFEs. There's also the fact that the Fedora package contains multiple builds of the driver, for use with multiple JVM versions; the JPackage package only contains a single build (JDBC 3?). So even if the JPackage RPM were updated to a later driver version, there's a case for not replacing the Fedora package. Out of curiosity, what distributions *don't* include the PostgreSQL JDBC drivers? (I.e. why does the JPackage RPM exist?) Thanks! -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher at comcast.net ======================================================================== From david at zarb.org Thu Jun 30 12:39:57 2005 From: david at zarb.org (David Walluck) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:39:57 -0400 Subject: [fedora-java] Re: postgresl-jdbc incompatible w/ Fedora Core In-Reply-To: References: <20050628200136.GE5537@pob> <1119993401.9688.268.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1119993909.9688.274.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050630083957.aj0iwu0p9wc48gw0@www.zarb.org> Ian Pilcher wrote: > Out of curiosity, what distributions *don't* include the PostgreSQL > JDBC drivers? (I.e. why does the JPackage RPM exist?) How were distros including these if java didn't really work until recently? Were they really compiled with gcj? (I guess it depends on the distro). Also, I recall that the names of the jars were strange, such that there was no way to detect the jar name you needed (say, across distros). -- Sincerely, David Walluck ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From gbenson at redhat.com Thu Jun 30 18:33:05 2005 From: gbenson at redhat.com (Gary Benson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:33:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [fedora-java] JOnAS in FC5 In-Reply-To: <20050628131024.GB5031@redhat.com> Message-ID: Gary Benson wrote: > Mark Wielaard wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 09:36 +0100, Gary Benson wrote: > > > Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > > JSPs seem broken since the compiler somehow seems to get a wrong > > > > classpath. It cannot find any imports like javax.servlet.*, > > > > org.objectweb.jonas.*, ... There must be some classpath property > > > > set wrongly by I haven't figured out where/what. > > > > > > Isn't jonasAdmin all JSPs? Certainly there's loads of JSP stuff > > > in my classloader log... > > > > http://localhost:9000/jonasAdmin/ seems to work fine. But for > > http://localhost:9000/ I always get the attached error message. > > (Same output as in /var/log/jonas/jonas) > > Ah, I just started getting those this morning, after upgrading > eclipse-ecj. For some reason the java.util.StringTokenizer used > to parse the classpaths _sometimes_ fails. Now filed as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=162177. Any input gratefully received! Cheers, Gary From i.pilcher at comcast.net Thu Jun 30 21:24:44 2005 From: i.pilcher at comcast.net (Ian Pilcher) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:24:44 -0500 Subject: [fedora-java] Java API doc (javadoc) from GCJ/classpath? Message-ID: From what I can tell, Fedora Core 4 provides a very good Java 1.4.2 development environment. The one thing that I cannot find is Java API documentation (the equivalent of JPackage's java-1.4.2-sun-manual). Have I just missed it, or is it not available? Thanks! -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher at comcast.net ========================================================================