[fedora-java] Release Notes

[David Walluck]

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Anthony Green wrote:
>>Fedora Core 4 users are advised not to use the Java RPM provided by 
>>Sun. It contains Provides that conflict with names used in packages 
>>provided as part of Fedora Core 4. Because of this, Sun Java might 
>>disappear from an installed system during package upgrade operations.
> 
> 
> I assume this is still true.  Does anybody have a pointer to the 
> details?

This shouldn't be the case if the java-1.4.2-sun-compat jpackage rpm
works (this is supposed to be an jpackage-compatible add-on to the Sun rpm).

Also, even if this is a problem, we should at least discuss if there are
any workarounds.

> I think we should discourage the /opt solution, since it doesn't
> integrate with out alternatives-based solution.

I agree. It also subverts the packaging system entirely. If a commercial
rpm is desired, it is best to build the jpackage rpms. Is there any
other way?

> Also, I thought there were problems with using the binary RPM from 
> JPackage, and users _have_ to rebuild from the SRPM.  Does anybody
> know about this?

I don't know, aren't these normally built on FC or something ``close
enough''? So the questions remain: does the sun-compat rpm work and do
the normal rpms work? (I wish I could answer but I've been out of the
loop lately).

> Is this really true?   What about IBM or BEA?  Should we even be 
> making specific recommendations here?  Perhaps this is best
> avoided.

FC, being free, shouldn't be recommending non-free solutions (IMO). Yes,
users will be interested in integration with commercial jvm's (not
necessarily Sun either), but not only is this statement suggesting the
use of non-free software, but it is somehow implying that it's supported
by FC, when FC really only accepts bug reports for gcj.

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Sincerely,

David Walluck
<david at zarb.org>
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