Broadcasting Annoyances

[Janina Sajka]

OK. I think I did misunderstand you--you're not speaking of  Xterm (or
gnome terminal, etc).
I'll be happy to clean up my act on this, if that will do the trick.
Thanks for the pointer. Guess I need to understand better the
distinction in the context of Fedora--the various ~/.bashrc,
~/.bash_profile, etc. 

Michael Tiemann writes:
> Perhaps I don't know enough about your environment, but there is a
> definite distinction in my mind between 'console' and 'terminal'.  Here
> are some messages that reinforce that difference:
> 
> http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9704.3/0467.html
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/06/msg00138.html
> 
> It could be that the way you have set up your login environment, the
> user's only option is a 'console', but I think you should evaluate
> making it possible for users who need terminal access (even if it's a
> terminal providing eye-free interaction) to use a 'terminal' instead.
> 
> M
> 
> On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 09:18, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Not an option for me (in my eyes-free environment).
> > 
> > And, even if it were, is this really a solution? Or just a workaround?
> > 
> > Michael Tiemann writes:
> > > Perhaps you want to be using a terminal window, not a console, for
> > > command-line activities.  I know the distinction may come as a surprise,
> > > but terminals will give you the peace you seek.  I never open console
> > > windows (well, almost never).
> > > 
> > > M
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 09:05, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > Am I the only person who's sick and tired of all manner of error
> > > > messages that are being splattered across all open console logins just
> > > > because some programmer wants to do that?
> > > > 
> > > > Example: Is it really necessary for ordinary users to get the following
> > > > from cdparanoia:
> > > > 
> > > > cdparanoia: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the actual device will also suggest you mig
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > As if the ordinary user (who, in my instance didn't even launch the
> > > > process) could do anything about such a condition. Heck, I'd warrant
> > > > most users wouldn't even understand it. Yet, in this example, this
> > > > messages comes up every minute or so.
> > > > 
> > > > I could come up with other examples, but I think my point is
> > > > sufficiently illustrated.
> > > > 
> > > > Clearly such messages should go to logs. But, isn't this broadcast
> > > > abuse? I think so and dearly wish we had a mechanism to block such
> > > > abuse.
> > > > 
> > > > 				Janina
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 				Accessibility Workgroup
> > 				Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > 
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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina at freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040