kernel source/module directions and why windows users are happy

[Farkas Levente]

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>- rename kernel-source to kernel-sourcecode. actualy it doesn't bother 
>>me too much, but i don't see any reason for this. this just confuse 
>>everyone.
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> 
> it was done to work around yum/up2date/apt breakage. 

afaik it still break yum/up2date etv..:-(

>>- now you simple do NOT ship/build any source code rpm! did you ever ask 
>>about it any REAL fc users? did you ever see/talk users who use fc or 
>>even linux? eg.: redhat/fedora do not ship ntfs driver even when the 
>>kernel contain it. suppose one need it. untill now:
>>   - install kernel and kernel-source[code]
>>   - update (yum, up2date...) update both when new version comes.
>>   - rebuild ntfs module
>>   or simple download the redhat/fedora ntfs driver rpm which has it own
>>   web page, since you don't ship it.
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> 
> for ntfs you want to use the sourceforge driver (including their source
> I guess)

no. the ntfs driver included in the kernel-sourcecode noarch rpm, at 
least it was easier untill now:
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export CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m
cd /usr/src/linux-$version/fs/ntfs
make -C /lib/modules/$version/build 
SUBDIRS=/usr/src/linux-$version/fs/ntfs clean
make -C /lib/modules/$version/build 
SUBDIRS=/usr/src/linux-$version/fs/ntfs modules
make -C /lib/modules/$version/build 
SUBDIRS=/usr/src/linux-$version/fs/ntfs modules_install
depmod -ae
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>>actulay i've got my kernel-update script which recompile ntfs, madwifi, 
>>vmware driver etc.
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> 
> you can't use nor do you need to use kernel-sourcecode for external
> modules.

i've got one script which do all the required stuff. yes i know that only
ntfs driver require kernel-sourcecode. at least in fc2, but in fc3 i
don't know the what will do.
the kernel updates happend too often and ntfs and all external driver 
have to be recompile.


>>driver is no longer working how can i download the kernel src.rpm from 
>>the net without net access? and i'm sure everyone forget at least once 
>>this. i still can compile my drivers, but everyone can do so? do you 
>>think it's the right solution.
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> you don't need the src.rpm to build external drivers.

but need for those driver included in the mainstream kernel but do not 
compiled by redhat.

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   Levente                               "Si vis pacem para bellum!"