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[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:31:57 +0100 (CET), Dag Wieers wrote:

> > > > Basically, currently it _does not matter_ whether you use %buildroot or
> > > > $RPM_BUILD_ROOT because neither one is deprecated. Just don't use both at
> > > > once.
> > > 
> > > Be careful Michael, you're now questioning official fedora.us policy.
> > 
> > Shrug, he's not alone in that. I was against *mandating* $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
> > instead of %{buildroot} all the way and still am (simply because
> > %{buildroot} is faster to type and also mixes better with all the
> > %{_libdir} macros and such visually), and there were/are others as well.
> 
> I know you were and I've seen more people against that policy than in 
> favor of it on the mailinglist.

Is it a policy? A policy as in "blocker criterion"? ;) Great. I tell you
what: I don't care. Because it would mean that a src.rpm taken from Red
Hat Enterprise Linux and modified slightly would be insufficient. That
cannot be true, in particular not with regard to the "patches" repository.

> > OTOH that's what a community project is about: you get to express your
> > opinion and vote, doesn't mean your vote is the one that counts.
> > Compromises, in other words.
> 
> Well, I'd like to see the votes again ;)
> 
> As my impression was that decisions were made on IRC and/or mainly based 
> on expressions by a famous Red Hat developer I dare not mention ;)

As pointed out by me quite some time ago, I find some of the groundwork
over-ambitious. But I haven't seen anyone blocking the release of a
working package because it used %buildroot. Most packages have lots
of other issues, real issues.

> We've got some others like the infamous 'Epoch must be included even if 
> zero' decision,

Which has had a good reason.

> or the 'Source-tag may not have macros' decision,

Macros in URLs simply don't work. If you want macros in Source tags,
cut off everything up to the file name like

  Source0: %name-%version.tar.gz

and put an example download URL as a comment, e.g.

  # ftp://ftp.foo.bar/foo/foo-1.0.tar.gz
  Source0: %name-%version.tar.gz

Certainly much better than weird constructs like

  Source0: http://www.foo.bar/%name/%version/%name-%{version}rc1.tar.gz

(note the ugly "rc1" hack)

> or the
> 'We dont like to mix repositories' decision and countless others.

That's more of a "we cannot -- unless there would be very tight
cooperation".
 
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