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Re: FC5 and Yum Plugins

On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 15:28 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On 12/29/05, Axel Thimm <Axel Thimm atrpms net> wrote:
> > That sounds too sneaky. While such a setup would generate grand
> > headaches to most 3rd party repos (if not all, if there any big one
> > w/o replacements?) as you and Thorsten already outlined (so it's
> > better not to get as far as to have this as a default), I'd rather
> > find a different solution to this problem, and I believe the other 3rd
> > party repo maintainers would feel the same. It's not a repository war
> > to invent new ways of dumping the other side (I hope).
> >
> > Certainly this kind of yum setup would not be a supported setup by the
> > repos needing these replacements, so either way you look at it, this
> > idiom cannot be welcomed by any such repo. In fact it would make yum
> > itself as a depsolver unusable for these repos.
> >
> > So to answer your question directly: ATrpms would try to avoid such a
> > setup by all (fair) means, and not having ATrpms at all on your client
> > system would be a preferable setup to one with broken dependencies.
> I think protectbase by default is a particularly bad idea for a number
> of reasons. But if i understand the original poster correctly, the
> problem he wants solved is a way to easily update packages in a way
> that recognizes from where installed packages were originally
> installed from after selectively install packages from a number of
> different vendors.  I don't see a good solution to this problem since
> the rpmdb doesn't keep track of this sort of information. The closest
> thing that can be used to aid this sort of update is gpg signatures.

This summary is correct.

If I came across an RPM in ATRPMS that required the updated xorg-X11
packages, I'd have to manually turn off protection for the base repo
from Fedora and then install things.

In my limited use of ATRPMS (for MythTV, its requirements and NVidia
binary drivers), I prefer to stick as close to Fedora base as possible.

The current situation lends itself to Fedora packages being replaced
with ATRPMS packages on a whim instead of via explicit requires (in my
"yum update" scenario).  I'm just opining that this is not ideal.

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