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Re: FC5 and Yum Plugins



On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 01:05:46AM -0800, Jarod Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 29 December 2005 20:53, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > >And generate more support issues with the 3rd party repos. Yum is
> > >already creating support headaches with the --enable=foo switch, and
> > >having this being the default will not make it easier on us.
> > >
> > >Do you want 3rd parties to support Fedora Core? Then consider whether
> > >you want to make is easier or more difficult for those repositores to
> > >operate properly.
> >
> > I dont use them so I am neutral on that. Only talking about users here.
> 
> I'm in the position of being both a user and a contributor to one of said 
> 3rd-party repositories[1]. I definitely still want to support Fedora Core.
> 
> > >And don't forget: We're talking about fixing something that isn't
> > >broken ...
> >
> > Getting bug reports based on packages being replaced isnt exactly a non
> > issue.
> 
> Axel, I have to agree with Rahul here. While it isn't "broken", per se, its 
> definitely an issue. There are quite a few people who are rather adverse to 
> the way ATrpms, if enabled in full, replaces core packages, but still want to 
> use a number of ATrpms packages. I know that (at least most of ;) the reasons 
> for ATrpms replacing core packages are pure, at least from ATrpms' point of 
> view, but there's something to be said for only upgrading what *must* be 
> upgraded to add a new program.
> 
> I think the majority of users who complain about ATrpms replacing core 
> packages are what I'd call power-users, who are bright enough to enable 
> protectbase for themselves, so protectbase off by default sounds reasonable 
> to me. I think it gives those power-users what they want, and minimizes 
> headaches for 3rd-party repo maintainers from sheeple who just want an mp3 
> player (or mythtv ;).

ahm, the issue is about enabling this by default, not whether it the
plugin itself makes it into the release.

> [1] Disclaimer: I do a bit of packaging work for ATrpms.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

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