FC4 slimfast slimfest

Toshio Kuratomi toshio at tiki-lounge.com
Mon Feb 21 22:26:49 UTC 2005

On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 04:15:20PM -0500, seth vidal wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 13:07 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 03:35:34PM -0500, Elliot Lee wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > Here's a heads up that we need to get rid of about 300M of packages to
> > > make sure that FC4 continues to fit on 4 CD's. Right now eclipse, xfce,
> > > xemacs, cfengine, and all the games are leading candidates. We also may
> > > try to start removing stuff from Core in hopes that it will appear in
> > > Extras if someone cares about it.
> > > 
> > Has anyone answered the question of whether RedHat will provide manpower to
> > maintain packages in Extras?  (I wasn't at FUDCon -- I was hoping it would
> > get tossed about there.) 
> > 
> > It's one thing to talk about keeping FC4 to 4 CDs so we don't burden users
> > with downloading extra programs.  It's another to say RedHat needs to keep
> > its maintenance of packages down; currently we can only support about 4 CDs
> > worth of stuff.
> > 
> No, That's the point - if fedora is going to work and going to have a
> constantly increasing number of packages then people OUTSIDE of red hat
> need to play ball.
Well yeah.  But that's neither here nor there.  You're stating that Core is
defined as RedHat's contribution and Extras as The Community contribution to
the Fedora Project.  But that's never been stated.

I want that clarified because it's a very different thing to look at Core
and say I wouldn't mind having to download that separate from the Core CDs
versus I wouldn't mind maintaining that package or seeing it go to

This, of course, leads into the complementary question of whether RedHat
is willing to open up maintenance of Core packages to Community

So there's a different set of criteria for choosing packages and a different
set of helpful suggestions outside the scope of adding/removing packages
depending on what we're actually trying to limit (disk space or RedHat
maintenence burden.)

> if you don't know how to get on the team go here:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/CvsAccess
Yep.  But fear of rejection has always kept me shy :-)


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