FC4 slimfast slimfest

Thomas Fitzsimmons fitzsim at redhat.com
Mon Feb 21 22:53:44 UTC 2005

On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 17:38 -0500, Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote:
>On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 16:37 -0500, Elliot Lee wrote:
>>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Andrew Overholt wrote:
>>> > Nothing is set in stone, but if you want to write in favor of keeping
>>> > something, you'll have to suggest something else of equal or greater size
>>> > to axe instead.
>>> I'm sorry, but I think this is silly and leads to finger-pointing.  
>>> Just because I work on and use Eclipse and lots of the Java-related
>>> stuff doesn't mean that others don't see other things as being just as
>>> useful.
>>> My only other comments are the following:
>>>   . there is a very active and vibrant "open source/free java" community
>>>   . having these in Core brings in a large segment of Java users who would
>>>     normally just download the non-free JVMs
>>>   . Eclipse is a well-supported upstream project
>>>   . we have people within RH working on all of this
>>I agree 100%, and I for one want Java to become much more widely used. At
>>the same time, we need to stick with a hard constraint of 4 CD's for
>>Fedora Core, and that means cutting out /something/.
>Where does this hard constraint come from?

Sorry, hadn't read the rest of the thread.  I saw Elliot's reasoning and
Alexandre's responses -- where he made all the arguments I was going to
make :)


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