FC4 slimfast slimfest

[Phil Muldoon]

> The java stuff is new, its huge and its the easiest to push out for now

Easiest in what metric? I guess the confusing thing here is if this
really was a slim down of Fedora (IE AbiWord vs OpenOffice, and other
arguments throughout the thread), then there would be plenty of room;
there are lots of cross-over areas where duplication exists throughout
core. It's difficult to rank one language, package, or set of tools over
another, but for me, personally, a free java stack is of great
importance. And that includes Eclipse which is integral to that area.

Regards

Phil


> 
> > > Not only that but a java repository set has a natural focus and since
> > > most of it is in java it can run asynchronously to the OS updates too
> > 
> > Except for the natively-compiled stuff.  Plus, I believe Sopwith said this
> > kind of 3rd party repository isn't possible ATM.
> 
> Then how are we proposing to do Fedora extras ? It is definitely possible.
> A Java themed disk may be trickier as a part of base.
> 
> If we can't do it then in my opinion its even more critical we keep the current
> stuff and java should go into fedora extras or Fedora 5 when the tools are
> fixed.
> 
> I'd much rather see a Java yum repository and a non-install time java .iso
> (which is easy to do as a standalone)
>