radical suggestion for fc4 release
Panu Matilainen
pmatilai at welho.com
Tue Feb 1 13:07:47 UTC 2005
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:43:32 -0500, Jeff Johnson <n3npq at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> With no offense whatsoever to anyone, I humbly submit that the comments in
>> the changelog are of rather limited use to any non-redhat developer, and are
>> totally useless to any end-user.
>
> I don't know about totally useless. I've refered to changelogs in the
> past to track down issues when troubleshooting issues concerned when a
> certain bugfix or security fix have been applied. Changelog entries
> that refer to specific bug numbers or CAN numbers can be quite helpful
> in this regard. Limited, but not totally useless value. I will conceed
> that I could probably use a web lookup for all this information if it
> were made the primary means of access to changelogs. And I would be
> more at ease with losing the changelogs in the package completely if
> package update notification texts containing the information were more
> closely aligned with package update mechanisms.
Package changelogs are anything but useless, I refer to them all the time.
Dunno if others have noticed but I think the rpm changelogs have become
much more useful and informative now that the rawhide changelog deltas are
mailed to a public list :)
Sure, go ahead and nuke ancient entries from specs. The info is available
in cvs and old packages for archeologists to dig if interested, a normal
user is only interested in the few last changes, eg "this update broke my
xxxx - what changed?".
I personally wouldn't mind if rpm -q --changelog just fetched the
changelog info directly from cvs (or web, or whatever) either, just as
long as the information is handily available.
- Panu -
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