FC4 slimfast slimfest

[Andrew Overholt]

* Elliot Lee <sopwith at redhat.com> [2005-02-21 15:36]:
> 
> Right now eclipse, xfce, xemacs, cfengine, and all the games are leading
> candidates. We also may try to start removing stuff from Core in hopes
> that it will appear in Extras if someone cares about it.

If Eclipse goes then so does all of the Java stuff since Eclipse is our
bytecode compiler.

> Nothing is set in stone, but if you want to write in favor of keeping
> something, you'll have to suggest something else of equal or greater size
> to axe instead.

I'm sorry, but I think this is silly and leads to finger-pointing.  Just
because I work on and use Eclipse and lots of the Java-related stuff
doesn't mean that others don't see other things as being just as useful.

My only other comments are the following:

  . there is a very active and vibrant "open source/free java" community
  . having these in Core brings in a large segment of Java users who would
    normally just download the non-free JVMs
  . Eclipse is a well-supported upstream project
  . we have people within RH working on all of this

Andrew "I'm sure I've violated trademarks with my use of the j-word" Overholt