FC4 slimfast slimfest

[Elliot Lee]

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Andrew Overholt wrote:

> > Nothing is set in stone, but if you want to write in favor of keeping
> > something, you'll have to suggest something else of equal or greater size
> > to axe instead.
> 
> I'm sorry, but I think this is silly and leads to finger-pointing.  
> Just because I work on and use Eclipse and lots of the Java-related
> stuff doesn't mean that others don't see other things as being just as
> useful.
>
> My only other comments are the following:
> 
>   . there is a very active and vibrant "open source/free java" community
>   . having these in Core brings in a large segment of Java users who would
>     normally just download the non-free JVMs
>   . Eclipse is a well-supported upstream project
>   . we have people within RH working on all of this

I agree 100%, and I for one want Java to become much more widely used. At
the same time, we need to stick with a hard constraint of 4 CD's for
Fedora Core, and that means cutting out /something/.

Best,
-- Elliot