Smartrpm was (Re: Fedora Core 4)
Jeff Johnson
n3npq at nc.rr.com
Thu Jan 20 22:03:49 UTC 2005
Andreas Hasenack wrote:
>I just today tried yum from FC3 and here are my complaints (bear in mind that
>these may have been addressed in a newer version: what I tested was from a
>fresh FC3 install):
>- yum update gives you absolutely no idea how long the download will take
>
Knowing your bw, and estimating network traffic, a priorii is no easy,
nor yum, problem.
>- yum update is *really* verbose. You get pages and pages of data even before
> getting a list of packages which will be upgraded
>
Verbosity increases the likelihood os diagnosing a problem. Wrapper to
redirect
spewage to a log file, and invoke with -y, ain't *THAT* hard if the
verbosity annoys.
>- yum update can't be aborted: ctrl-c just aborts the current download and
> then yum proceeds to the next one where you have to press ctrl-c again and
> so on.
>
Blame not yum for this, rpmlib runs with signals masked. If you
want/need more responsiveness,
then there is a single call to check-and-exit that may need to be added
to rpmlib within
some loops.
>- after downloading lots of headers and after lots of screens filled with
> information yum finally showed me what packages would be upgraded/obsoleted/removed.
> Then the packages would be downloaded and, again, there was no indication of
> how long that would take. The ETA displayed was for each package, and not the
> whole download.
>
See answer to 1).
>- yum update also doesn't tell you how big the download is in terms of size
> (how many megabytes?)
>
>
This could be computed/displayed, but only in units of bytes. I suspect
that knowing the
size is not so useful, judging from 2 complaints regarding "how long
...", but only 1 complaint
"how large ...". YMMV.
>
>
>>I too was an apt user during fc1 and 2 but in the middle of fc2 i
>>switched to yum because it is native, well supported and pretty well
>>feature laden. I have issues with it like i do with most packages (and
>>
>>
>
>I think that (being native which means it's the official update method for a
>distro) is a very important reason. After all, the distro maintainers wouldn't
>care if you had a problem with something outside their distro.
>
>
If you like apt, then please, by all means, *Use apt!* No one is
stopping you ...
73 de Jeff
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