grip being removed [Re: rawhide report: 20050120 changes]

Trever L. Adams tadams-lists at
Wed Jan 26 01:10:22 UTC 2005

On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 19:21 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:10:29 -0700, Trever L. Adams
> <tadams-lists at> wrote:
> > For someone who understands gstreamer, this should be a VERY simple
> > plugin to write I would think.
> shrug.. i was just pointing out one of the primary reasons i see fc3
> users are still using xmms.
> I'll let other people decide if this is an important enough reason to
> keep xmms in Core or not. Perhaps the gtk2 based beep can be used
> instead to fill the same role so that the older gtk libs can be
> removed from core.

That was my intent, the old libraries would be nice to lose.

> And i'm not even sure this is a simple gst plugin fix.  Does rhythmbox
> even play audio cds?  Typically what i see happening when novice users
> try to play cds on their gnome fc3 desktops is gnome-cd  will open up
> and start accessing the audio cd. If their system doesn't have an
> analog audio connection between the soundcard and the cd unit ....
> there is no sound.... gnome-cd plays.. but there is no sound.  Seems
> to afflict a number of users who have integrated audio hardware
> instead of an actual soundcard.. but I can't speak first hand since I
> don't have any systems with integrated audio. And doing a quick ldd
> against gnome-cd and i'm not seeing any obvious libgst* references
> that would indicate gnome-cd is actually using gst at all. So I'm not
> sure this is an easy gst plugin fix.
> -jef

I am afraid you are right, but gnome-cd could be rewritten to use gst
framework and play both ways.

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