sysvinit replacement?

[Peter Arremann]

On Saturday 15 October 2005 14:17, Shane Stixrud wrote:
> Is there any plan to replace sysvinit with a system like SMF (Service
> Management Framework) in Solaris?  Perhaps it is even possible to take SMF
> as is and integrate it into fedora without building our own or resurrecting
> DMD (http://directory.fsf.org/GNU/DMD.html) from the grave?

Why not just create something thats compatible with the Windows registry? ;)

We've been using 10 since it was in beta for several reasons and once you've 
gotten past the "woohoo - new and shiny" phase, SMF is one of the worst 
changes in Sol10.

The biggest issue with SMF is the state database. A single type on a service 
file can corrupt your state database. So can interrupting a svcs command at 
the wrong time. If that happens, good luck - you go back to the last saved 
state and hope things still work. Of course if you installed software since 
then you end up with a mess and... 

Then the startup time gains are overrated... Log into your Sol10 box as soon 
as its possible and run "format" - if your box survives that (some older ones 
dont) then you'll see your format stall for a long time before you get your 
output. In the end, if you measure the time from push of the power button 
(assuming a reasonable diag level) to the time you logged in and got your 
format output there is barely any difference between Sol9 and Sol10. Same 
holds true for printing or a JES webserver request. 

Other problems are that you're trading a well known, well debugged system 
against something noone knows and that has virtually no tools to troubleshoot 
at the moment. You also make it much harder for anyone to port software to 
your Linux flavor.

SMF is in my opinion one of the biggest technical mistakes sun has made in the 
recent history - would be a shame if Fedora followed such a bad example.

Peter.