some closure on the xorg updates issue

Rahul sundaram at
Fri Aug 11 12:37:50 UTC 2006

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> The decision is probably set in stone now anyway, but just my 2 cents:
> Max Spevack <mspevack <at>> writes:
>> 1) The xorg update is of benefit to Fedora users who do not depend on 
>> proprietary drivers for their video cards.
> Indeed.
>> 2) As such, this update would be bad for users who do rely on proprietary 
>> drivers, mainly because those proprietary drivers are not updated to 
>> function properly with the new xorg code.  Users who upgrade will be in a 
>> tough spot until their proprietary software vendors relese updates.
> ATI has already updated their driver, if NVidia won't do the same, that's 
> really their problem.
>> 3) The Fedora Project does not support any sort of proprietary software. 
>> "Once free, always free".
> Indeed.
>> In short, it's a major change with only modest benefit, and a better 
>> solution is coming soon.
> And what IS that "better solution"?

A well defined updates policy with the release engineering team to grant 
exceptions when required.

Draft at

> IMHO, this sets a really bad precedent. Do we really want Fedora to become the 
> next Debian Stable? Many users on the list have indicated they are running 
> Fedora precisely because they want current software, not obsolete crap which 
> happens to cooperate well with proprietary software, which as you say is not 
> even supported. 

No need to trash talk other distributions. We have always withheld some 
updates from the general releases. We just need to define the criteria 
to withhold updates in a better way.


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