LVM not fit for Fedora Core

[Gilboa Davara]

On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 09:32 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 07:50 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
> > 
> >>Gilboa Davara wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Use LVM.
> >>>Trust me.
> >>>You won't be sorry.
> >>
> >>I've been there, done that, and regretted it deeply.
> >>I got rid of LVM the first chance I could.
> >>
> >>LVM does not inter-operate with anything else.
> >>Grub does not work under LVM.
> > 
> > 
> > Why should it?
> 
> Why shouldn't it?  LVM is touted as "the solution" to restrictions
> on disk partitioning.  Except that LVM doesn't work for the first
> logical access to disk partitions: booting.

No you are wrong. 
-grub- doesn't support LVM.
(Same goes for xfs, reiserfs and at least 95 other file systems)

> > 
> > HUH?
> > Why-on-earth-would-you-want-to-do-that?
> 
> To interoperate with the rest of the world, such as other
> operating systems, even other distributions of Linux,
> that understand DOS partition tables but not LVM.
> If you don't have infinitely many boxes then it is useful
> to be able to "compromise".

If you remove Linux from the equation.
Does Windows support ZFS-lvm?
Does Solaris support dynamic disks?

What OSs are you talk about exactly?

As for other distributions... well, on my old workstation I had
Slackware, Debian, Fedora and CentOS all sharing the same LVM.
If you favorite distro doesn't support LVM, you have a very, very, old
distro.

> 
> > 
> > 
> >>Using the rescue CDs is a nightmare under LVM: the LVM
> >>setup is not recognized automatically (you must remember
> >>what it is) and the rescue environment contains no help
> >>or documentation on LVM (such as: the _syntax_ for naming
> >>the pieces!)
> > 
> > 
> > I can agree that Feodra documentation on the subject is... missing.
> > A. TLDP has an excellent on-line documentation. [1]
> > B. system-config-lvm is improvement constantly.
> > C. Documentation missing? Join the documentation team and help them fix
> > it.
> 
> "Get off the bus one stop before I do."  I didn't recognize that
> LVM documentation was missing from the rescue CD until I needed it
> but it wasn't there.

As I said, TDLP has a very comprehensive LVM documentation.
Last time I checked, it was the first google result to LVM howto.

> Data longevity is not the strong suit of RHEL/Fedora Core/Linux.
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=137068

Now you're just trolling.

> _You_ strongly advocated LVM and suggested "You won't be sorry"
> without any disclaimers.  I'm supplying some of the omissions.

No you're not.
Out of your initial post, only two items stand:
A. Documentation is missing. (You'll have to open google - oh my God!)
B. Hardware failure will require manual intervention. (Though in 3 years
and countless hardware crashes, I only had to manually mount lvm once,
and even this was caused by a broken software RAID)

The rest of your post(s) were pure senseless ranting. (Especially the
BZ#)

BTW, if you consider Fedora/RHEL to be an unstable junk, -why- are you
here?

- Gilboa