PHP requiring Apache

Konstantin Ryabitsev icon at
Sat Jan 14 18:23:12 UTC 2006

Hello, all:

PHP should not require Apache, since it may not be used with Apache. 
Apache-specific bits of PHP should therefore be moved to a sub-package.

Currently php packages require apache. It's an artificial 
requirement, since PHP does not depend on apache to run, and 
moreover, sometimes PHP can be used without Apache, for example when 
it's used with another server such as lighttpd, or in CGI mode with 
other applications. There are also places that write shell scripts 
in PHP, since it's "familiar to everyone who has to support them." 
Yes, I'm in one of such places, sadly.

So that apache doesn't get installed as dead weight in 
configurations where PHP is used without it, the bits and pieces of 
PHP that actually deal with Apache should be moved to a separate 

Thoughts? (Other than "php must die?")

Konstantin Ryabitsev
McGill University WSG
Montréal, Québec

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