Announcing Fedora Core 5 Test 2

LostSon LostSon at
Tue Jan 17 17:53:04 UTC 2006

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:44 +0100, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 12:16 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > > > Yes. Planned to be included in FC5. Can we finally drop up2date and
> > > > rhn-applet from the release?
> > > >
> > > up2date and rhn-applet will continue to be included for FC5 (though not
> > > installed by default) to help make it easier for people to transition
> > Why? Has the transition phase so far (I.e. all Fedora releases since yum
> > had been introduced), not been sufficient to finally bury them now?
> Give your mother Fedora. Try to get some graphical way to get notified
> you need to 'update'. Then have her click her way through updating her
> machine. (note that she wants to watch DVDs and listen to MP3s so she
> has livna, freshrpms, atrpms packages installed too).
> I have done exactly this last week on FC4. It's a disaster. The standard
> add/remove software gave me errors. synaptic couldn't deal with the
> repositories either, and yumex is so unbearably slow I thought it was
> broken, but then realised it is just unbearably slow, so I tried using
> it and found its listing of packages isn't what the proper state of
> the machine was. I lost a large selection to 'add' once that i spend
> 15 minutes on. When it did "work", it was working without any message
> to the user, and it would take minutes for it to do anything after
> clicking on the update or add button.
> I ended up having to explain to her what a terminal window is and how to
> run 'yum update'. While she feared the 'command line'.
> So with package managers and updates and GUI's we're not there yet.
> Paul

 It seems a shame to remove this why has it never been setup to work
with Fedora. It was always nice to have this back in the old days.

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