Pull off AIGLX repoistory?

dragoran dragoran at feuerpokemon.de
Wed Jul 26 07:09:17 UTC 2006


Mike A. Harris wrote:
> Michael Knepher wrote:
>> On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 00:18 +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>>> If FC5 hadn't supported the proprietary drivers in the first place
>>> then I wouldn't see a problem here since the users had a choice of 
>>> upgrading to/installing FC5 with that fact in mind 
>>
>> I think you have that backwards. nvidia and ATI decide whether or not
>> it's worth it for them to release binary drivers targeted at any
>> particular distro release. The Fedora Project, whether in a core release
>> or rawhide, makes no pretense at "supporting" those drivers.
>
> Exactly.  When we package an X.Org release and include it in the
> distribution, we do not intentionally break 3rd party drivers.  Wether
> or not 3rd party drivers may or may not work is simply not part of the
> decision making process at all.  It doesn't really matter.  The hardware
> vendors generally do NOT provide updated drivers for a given X.org
> release _until_ there are distributions _shipping_ that release and
> thus there is _demand_ for the vendor to support the new X.Org release.
>
> If we were to hold ourselves hostage to the proprietary vendors like
> some of the users using proprietary drivers are suggesting, then it
> would be 3-6 or more months until the proprietary drivers supported
> new X releases.
>
> I fully realize that some users are upset with me and what I have said
> so far in this thread.  I can totally live with that.  They may totally
> disagree with me on every level about it too.  What they do NOT realize
> however, is that doing things _this_ way results in the hardware
> vendors releasing updated drivers that work with new X releases _sooner_
> rather than later.
>
> In other words, by releasing 7.1 _now_ for FC5, we are doing a
> _favour_ to people who use proprietary drivers, because they will
> have _working_ drivers _sooner_.  Much sooner.
>
> If I hated proprietary vendors, like some people seem to want to paint
> a picture of, then I would be trying to avoid ever releasing an update
> for FC5 X.
>
> The bottom line is that some may disagree vehemently with this, but
> those very same people are the ones who most directly benefit from
> the end results.  Ironic isn't it?
>
>
>
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=946216&postcount=4
but this should not stop you from realeasing xorg-7.1
if someone for (whatever reason) don't wont to use it they should still 
wait until updated drivers are available.
but we should atleast inform user that the new X will break their 
drivers (fedoranews)
but silently break things _is_ wrong




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