Fedora's intended target audience?

[leomon]

What I'm seeing here is a failure for people to understand that this
discussion is not turning out to be about Fedora's target audience, but
infact a battle over those who don't realize that Fedora is intended to be
an OSS Pure distro that does not include proprietary software(display
drivers) which this X.org update could potentially(definately) break
end-user's machines. I think that this discussion is void. The fact of the
matter is Fedora shouldn't have to worry about breaking software that
RedHat/Fedora does not include at install. Why worry about those that like
to toy with their systems anyway? They can chose not to install the update
untill nVidia/ATI (AMD exscuse me) decide to release a compatible driver.
It's no worse than doing kernel updates where you have to reinstall the
driver anyway.

--cjr

On 7/27/06, Sean <seanlkml at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:55:43 +0200
> Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl> wrote:
>
> > No, this was the proverbial drop of water that made the bucket flow over
> > (Dutch proverb). The thing I want to discuss is the general impression
> > that Fedora Developers (both RH and Community ones) are loosing sight of
> > end users and are doing things purely on their technical merits even if
> > this hurts the end users. This xorg update is but one example.
>
> The xorg update isn't an example of hurting end users.  It's an example
> of putting better software in the hands of more users.  That's the same
> reason that _any_ updates to FC5 happen.
>
> I'm not sure what other problems you're including in your accusation but
> they should be brought up so that they can be addressed.  Remember though
> that even though there are many developers that are involved with Fedora
> it is mostly a packaging operation of the best that developers have to
> offer.  The point being that many problems aren't best addressed by Fedora
> packagers but rather by the individual application developer communities.
>
> > Also I'm not alone in this, I've received private mail backing me, but
> > people are afraid to back me publicly because they have tried to discuss
> > this in the past and instead of having a healthy discussion they got
> flamed.
>
> It's a mistaken impression that we need to address for sure.  People
> should
> be able to see that Fedora is intending to deliver the best open source
> software possible.
>
> > The name of that page describes perfectly what it is a list of
> > Objectives. A good list, which with I can fully agree, but it doesn't
> > properly define our target audience. The closest to a target audience
> > definition I can find on this page is: "built for and by a community"
> >
> > Which I find a rather narrow definition, so people who do not contribute
> > are not part of our target audience? Them I'm most definetly putting
> > large amounts of time into the wrong distro.
>
> I think that phrase was included to acknowledge that no distribution
> can be all things to all people.  That Fedora will be built to meet
> the needs of the community that builds it.  If it meets the needs of
> others then that's great.
>
> Sean
>
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