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Re: rawhide report: 20060720 changes



On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 06:21 +0530, Rahul wrote:
> Erwin Rol wrote:
> > It looks like dbus is broken, so the gnome desktop of my machine is
> > pretty much unusable. Thsi machine i am working on now also has the same
> > updates but i haven't restarted this machine yet, and will not do so
> > until i can use my other machine again.
> > 
> > Is anybody else seeing major problems with dbus ? Also i can't use kde
> > because it starts flooding the screen with endless segfault dialog
> > boxes, they come about every second. And they also seem to be dbus
> > related. After starting some stuff manual from a failsafe session i
> > could do some things but lot of programs segfault (like xchat) or
> > complain they can't connect to dbus.
> > 
> 
> subscribe to fedora-test list and watch the conversations there.

Hmm OK i found the convo in the archives. 

This massive breakage makes me wonder what the development process is of
rawhide. Do developers build code first and than send it to the rawhide
buildsystem or is the rawhide buildsystem the only one what builds code.
For example;

1) Modify code
2) compile everything needed
3) test
4) upload to build system
5) buildsystem compiles everything
6) buildsystem puts everything online

or

1) modify code
2) upload to build system
3) buildsystem compiles everything
4) buildsystem puts everything online
5) test 

In the first case it should be possible to prevent breakage like the
dbus one at the moment, since it breaks about every system right away.

So big fat _WARINING_ to everybody that didn't update the new dbus yet,
do _NOT_ update to the new dbus, wait until it actually works! Cause at
the moment it will render your gnome (and kde) desktop useless. 

- Erwin



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