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Re: rawhide report: 20060720 changes

On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 09:09 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

> It rawhide..... if you want stability use FC5. Oh, and it won't break
> every system, just the ones that are using the machine as a desktop.
> I'm sure all the server side just is just fine and/or dandy. 

The point was not that Rawhide is unstable or not, the point I was
trying to make was that it might be good if developers did some testing
to remove the most obvious bugs before pushing them to everybody.

If it would have been glibc instead of dbus, all machines that did an
update would be completely broken (including your server). Rawhides
testing gets only done when ppl actually use it.

> This is
> why I normally leave my updates on rawhide until the following
> morning... that way I can normally hear the cries of pain and know
> which way to step :-)

This is exactly what I mean, if everybody waits until tomorrow, the bug
will still be there tomorrow because nobody tried it today!

When developers touch parts of Fedora that could cripple whole systems,
like dbus, glibc, gtk, etc. it might be good to do a bit more testing
before pushing it to the buildsystem. If it are things like xchat, gaim
etc. than it is not as bad, because those are just single application
and it is expected that things break now and than in Rawhide.

But in the end i was just asking how development was done :-)

- Erwin

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