rawhide report: 20060624 changes

[Rahul Sundaram]

On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 15:15 +0200, Erwin Rol wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 08:32 -0400, Tom Diehl wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Erwin Rol wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 08:18 -0400, Tom Diehl wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Erwin Rol wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 11:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > >>>> On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 21:09 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > >>>>> It affects my fresh installation of FC6 test1.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> D'oh!  Looks like the release candidate nfs-utils went out with Test 1.
> > >>>> Sorry for the confusion.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> nfs-utils-1.0.8.rc4-1 == Test1
> > >>>> nfs-utils-1.0.8-2 == rawhide
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So, force upgrade it, or remove nfs-utils and then install it again from
> > >>>> rawhide.  There is already a bug on this.
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe a stupid question , but how can i "force upgrade" with yum ?
> > >>
> > >> You can't. Use rpm from the command line.
> > >
> > > Maybe another stupid question, why can't yum do a force
> > > update/upgrade/install ? I already needed it more than once due to
> > > broken rawhide problems, like this one.
> > 
> > Because Seth has stated more than once he does not want to allow people to
> > screw up their machines by allowing yum to do things like --nodeps or --force.
> 
> They can just as easy screw up their machine with rpm --nodeps or rpm
> --force, or even worse by trying to use rm to get rid of collisions, so
> that seems like a lame excuse to not implement it. 

rpm is a low level tool and higher level tools above it are layered to
do things that users typically do and users typically do not need to
force install anything. Its generally a good design not to expose all of
the functionality in higher level tools. You might disagree with that
decision is some parts but calling it lame is well... lame .

Rahul