Sun JRE or JDK to enter core, or at least extras?

[seth vidal]

On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 10:26 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:09:49PM -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
> > > any comments on
> > > http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2006-05/sunflash.20060516.4.xml ?
> > > I understand this as an indicator, that the Sun JDK and JRE should now
> > > be distributable via Fedora Core or Extras? If so, I would very much
> > > like to see this.
> > This pretty much kills it:
> > 2c. ``you do not combine, configure or distribute the Software to run in
> > conjunction with any additional software that implements the same or
> > similar functionality or APIs as the Software''
> 
> The "it's not open source" kills it for Fedora.
> 
> But for "non-free", I don't believe this is a problem. I think the people on
> the JPackage list who are concerned about this are misinterpreting --
> remember, licenses are written in legalese, which is formed from English
> words but where the meaning of certain terms is determined by heaps of case
> law and precedent, not necessarily by the dictionary.
> 
> My assumption, given that Sun people say that this clause does not prevent
> distribution of the JDK _alongside_ GCJ etc., is that people are reading
> the phrase "in conjunction with" more strongly than it should be. A more
> narrow reading indicates that you can't use the Sun JVM with GNU Classpath,
> but you can use and distribute them both _not_ in conjunction.
> 
> But really, a lawyer needs to answer this question.
> 

and no matter what it is off topic for this list.

sun's java is not free software. It will NOT be in fedora provided that
it continues to be closed-source - no matter how much they let us
redistribute it.

so we can stop discussing it.

-sv