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Re: Kernel Modules in Fedora -x

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:

"Not helping" is unrelated to actively breaking in mid-version updates.
If you plan the latter, just say so up front - and in a way that points out this difference from RHEL. And anyone who wants current apps on a box that keeps working will just have to learn a different administration style.

If you are saying that Fedora is intentionally breaking third party proprietary modules that would be misleading. Fedora stays close to upstream versions and pulling upstream versions can sometimes break these modules. Sometimes new versions are needed for security fixes. In other cases it brings in bug fixes or new desired functionality.

I'm not suggesting that fedora modifies the ABI arbitrarily just to encourage users to switch to RHEL, but if there is there is no expectation that 3rd party drivers that work at the beginning of a version will work after the first update, I think that should be stated more clearly.

I didn't think there was anything unusual or proprietary about my firewire drives or the IBM 225's either - but they both went through many months of not working with various fedora kernels.

This isn't Fedora specific issue.

It is from the perspective I'm trying to get across. I installed and tested a fedora version with the drives in question. They stopped working after some updates, mid-version.

All distributions suffered from the same problems. Firewire layer in the upstream kernel wasn't robust enough previously. Red Hat rewrote it and it was in Fedora 7 and it hasn't been merged upstream now in the latest kernel.

The change that broke things was never pushed into the Centosplus version I ended up using. If fedora must send every new and untested change on to the users, how about some easier way to avoid them if they break your hardware, like making kernel updates opt-in within a release version? An install option that offered to reserve alternate system partitions so you can revert to a known-working version with access to your current home directory after installing the next might be nice too.

  Les Mikesell
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