Wiki Migration

Mike McGrath mmcgrath at redhat.com
Fri Dec 21 15:49:08 UTC 2007


Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:
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>>> As discussed on IRC my vote is anything that has a CMS built into it. 
>>>
>>> I personally feel a lot of things are done behind closed doors and
>>> really feeding the hungry public with information of whats coming up and
>>> things that have occurred is nothing but a bonus.
>>>   
>>>       
>> This is completely false.  On the websites (content) side:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs There's also the websites 
>> list, the docs list, #fedora-websites and #fedora-docs.
>>
>> If you're interested in the hosting side of things you'll want to talk 
>> to the Infrastructure team.  We have weekly meetings, there's the 
>> #fedora-admin channel and the fedora-infrastructure-list.  If you think 
>> we should replace the wiki with the CMS feel free to state your case on 
>> that list and we'll discuss but I think you'll find that for most 
>> content that would require a CMS the docs team handles that (and they're 
>> currently moving towards a CMS).  If you think you can organize the wiki 
>> with a CMS and that its the best way to go, lets see the proposal.
>>     
>>> I've been advised that plone does this as do other CMS/Wiki's out there.
>>> There are Java based one's out there already I'm not to sure how they
>>> fit into the scheme of things but information to help the marketing,
>>> ambassadors and other contributors to Fedora would be helpful.
>>>       
>> We've been trying to get plone up and running for not 1, not 2 but going 
>> on 3 years now when February hits.  We even have a big Plone advocate 
>> working on it with the docs team and yet its still not here.  I'm not 
>> saying anything bad about the technology but I'm a pretty results 
>> oriented guy and the proof is in the pudding.  Plone is a resource / 
>> attention needy application.  I hope the docs guys get a good product 
>> out of it but in general I'd like to see Fedora's commitment to Plone 
>> stop there until such a time comes that it can play well with the 
>> language it was written in (just my 2 cents).
>>
>>     -Mike
>>
>>     
>
> While I understand that it isn't just one website I would like to think
> that there is sufficient technology around that an integrated wiki/cms
> type solution is out there for the sake of ease.
>
> While my suggestion of Plone is based on the small amount of information
> I have. I personally have not used it so my information is based on
> other people's opinions.
>
> My opinion is based on http://www.gentoo.org/ where they have links to
> associated sections. News is on the front page mainly the Newsletter but
> at least its a form of letting people know what is going on.
>   
We have a rotating banner with Fedora Weekly News as well as a current 
open ticket:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/178

for a news site.  Just needs worker bees.
> I'm just hoping that there is a streamlined method out there.  Developer
> puts a feature page in the wiki it gets approved it gets shifted to a
> news item that says we are trying to get x thing implemented by Fedora
> x.
>   
Adding process is typically just the opposite of streamline.  Anyone can 
go and alter the wiki right now (and are encouraged to do so)

    -Mike




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