Fedora 7

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 14:51 -0500, Warren Togami wrote:

> I will discuss this in public, because the Fedora Project should be 
> transparent and open.

Hmmmm.  Well alrighty.



> David Zeuthen wrote:
> > 
> >> This has been a problem of attitude.  Your recent attempt to subvert the 
> >> community driven Fedora 7 art creation process with heavy-handed "This 
> >> is my job" authority is just yet another example of this.
> > 
> > It is my job to maintain the artwork packages and, yes, I'm deeply
> > troubled by the attitude on that list. That list is a place where the
> > guy with the biggest stereo wins (e.g. democracy, not what we do).
> 
> fedora-art-list is not a democracy, but rather a meritocracy.  The vast 
> majority of the work there has been done by volunteers, with Máirín 
> Duffy doing most of the community outreach and communication.  Not 
> everyone there has equal decision making power.  Those who have done 
> work and gained respect from others gain greater authority.  From merit, 
> some clear community leaders have emerged like Nicu Buculei.

The big question is, who decides who has the "merit".  I see potential
ideological problems here even if someone works their ass off, but then
isn't necessarily considered to be, for example, 'a good socialist'.  Or
a good "Stallmanist".  Or is that Stalinist?  Sorry, I get those two
confused.

In such cases, a harder worker could potentially be punished for not
"towing the party line".  The general excuse could be, "well, we have
guys with greater merit.  This is a meritocracy."

Maybe it is a meritocracy.  But it should be technical merit, not
anything else.  One guy with a better idea should triumph over 10 guys
with stupid ideas.


> 
> Is this not how a Fedora Project should be run?
> 
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-December/msg00178.html
> The Fedora Project Board decided, the community process is to be 
> followed and the result of that will be used in Fedora 7 pending the 
> Board's approval.
> 
> This is NOT YOUR DECISION.  This is the Board's decision.

Which will work as long as the Board a) acknowledges the existence of
users b) takes it's cues from the users first and c) prioritizes
technical merit over ideology.


It is also useful to examine the success of your competition.  As other
open source gods have already suggested here.

> 
> > That's not a way to get the best result so of course I'm concerned. It's
> > my god damn job to be concerned about that.
> > 
> > If you want to discuss further take your fucking conspiracy theories off
> > list and mail me directly.
> > 
> 

> Warren Togami
> wtogami at redhat.com
> 

LX