rsyslog is in F8

[Manuel Wolfshant]

Peter Vrabec wrote:
>
>>>>> It obsoletes sysklogd, so sysklogd in not running anymore and is erased
>>>>> after update. Note, that rsyslog won't start automatically. You need to
>>>>> do #service rsyslog start,(or restart the box). This problem should be
>>>>> solved by anaconda during upgrade from FC->F8.
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> What happens if I upgrade using yum?
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> You won't have running system log daemon until you restart the system or
>>> run service rsyslog start manually.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I'd say that since sysklogd is erased, rsylogd should be automatically
>> enabled and started. Yes, I know the packaging recommendations, but I
>> think that in this case an exception should be accepted.
>>     
>
> I agree, but I don't know any nice and secure way we can do it. 
shipping an /etc/init.d/rsyslog with default options set to enabled + 
service rsyslog start in %post is not OK ?
> Since we replace sysklogd in rawhide and rsyslogd will be installed during fresh
> F8 installation I don't see this is a big problem.
    You make the assumption that rawhide users will know about the 
replacement and activate rsyslogd manually. I bet most of them will 
blindly do yum -y update <insert your favorite other options here> and 
cry afterwards. Do not assume that they are subscribed to fedora mailing 
lists. Most of them are not. Or at least almost none of those I 
personally know in the RLUG community, to be more correct.