The community has lost control... (Was: Re: Don't put new packages through updates-testing)

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 03.06.2007 10:58, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 10:40 +0200, Patrice Dumas a écrit :
>
> My personal opinion there (and I do not claim to represent anything more
> than myself) is former Extras was very good at some things, and former
> Core at others, and it's logical that merged processes and tools take
> the best of each.
>
> Extras was good at specifying packaging policy & had good build tools to
> enforce it → koji is heavily inspired by the Extras buildsys
> 
> Core was good at release engineering, and Extras never managed to create
> anything approaching → release engineering tools and processes mostly
> follow Core rules

Extras was good (but still far from perfect) when it comes to get the
community heard and representing it. Extras had a transparent (but still
far from perfect) transparent decision process where everyone could get
heard if he wanted to. Debatably decisions in Extras were done by Committee.

I fear that those are the things we are losing with the merge. At least
I got the impression (and some people told me they had a similar
impression) we lost some parts of it already during the past months. No
big deal, the time was pressing, so it was acceptable.

But we need to get back on track now IMHO. That's why I'm raising my
voice here in this discussion.

CU
knurd