Traffic on fedora-maintainers (Was Re: The community has lost control...)

Thorsten Leemhuis fedora at leemhuis.info
Mon Jun 4 15:52:09 UTC 2007


On 04.06.2007 16:30, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 15:36 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> On 03.06.2007 15:17, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> On Sunday 03 June 2007 02:48:35 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>>> Well, see all those discussion that happened when ACLs were added, kjoi
>>>> introduced, the freezes were introduced and bodi put in place. Sure,
>>>> there are always discussions, but all those were quite worse and there
>>>> was a lot of confusion afaics... Don't read fedora-maintainers for a
>>>> week and suddenly you are not aware of how to build or push a package.
>>> So without reading the mailing list for maintainers,
>> A low-traffic fedora-maintainers-announce was requested multiple times
>> as some contributors mentioned that fedora-maintainers is to noisy for
>> them. Some Red-Hat-engineers blocked that so long and hard that people
>> that wanted it got frustrated and didn't drive that idea further in the
>> past months.
>>
>> Like it or not, but for some people fedora-maintainers has to much
>> traffic; so they just skim over it and easily miss important announcements.
> 
> The problem is that -maintainers was supposed to cut down on the traffic
> from -devel.[1]  But a lot of people end up posting there because they
> think it'll be lower traffic and thus be seen, thus discussion ensues[2]
> and then it's too much traffic.  Unless that changes, an -announce list
> is going to have the same problem.
> 
> It's a sucky problem, but I really don't think more lists is the
> answer :-/  Instead, better and more consistent use of our existing
> lists.

The proposal for the mailing list reorganisation still stands and IMHO
addresses the problem by reshuffling lists a bit. The outcome is less
list in total.

But as I said: still waiting for new hardware.

CU
thl




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