To Require yelp or not to require yelp
wtogami at redhat.com
Tue Jun 12 21:07:26 UTC 2007
Christopher Aillon wrote:
> Matej Cepl wrote:
>> On 2007-06-11, 19:31 GMT, Colin Walters wrote:
>>> Random aside - I wonder if anyone would notice or care if the Help
>>> menu items just disappeared from all applications.
>> Reporter of bug 242673 which lies in the root of all this messes noticed.
> No, reading the bug, the root of all this is because someone went
> against my will twice now and added the firefox-32 package. Now people
> think they can do shit like this which was one of my objections in the
> first place. I objected to this before it got added and it got added
> anyway. Then I objected after it got added again and they promised to
> remove it but it's apparently back now, after I verified it got removed.
> Clearly, my decisions matter.
This is FUD with a few outright lies sprinkled within.
- I created firefox-32 as an alternative way to explicitly launch the
32bit firefox on x86_64 because you rejected multiple REASONABLE
requests to allow it to be launched somehow without modifying
- I added it to Extras because I wanted a convenient shell script to
launch the 32bit browser without removing x86_64.
- You objected to it. I refused to remove it until nspluginwrapper was
- You threatened to add Conflicts out of spite.
- I escalated this issue to engineering management because I felt you
were acting unprofessional and spiteful. <manager> agreed with me.
- I heard nothing about it for a while.
- It never was removed from the distro or re-added at any point. The
current version in F7 was built back in November 2006.
Someone screwing themselves by removing firefox.x86_64 is completely
independent of firefox-32. Furthermore, if you remove firefox.x86_64
you don't need the firefox-32 script at all. I completely fail to see
how firefox-32 is the cause of this flamewar. Removing firefox.x86_64
itself is what breaks yelp, and firefox-32 has NOTHING to do with this.
It seems that nspluginwrapper is now close to being suitable for
Fedora... although there seems to be a separate drama going on in this
Let's see how stable and reliable nspluginwrapper can be before removing
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