XULRunner - will be or won't be?

Rahul Sundaram sundaram at fedoraproject.org
Thu Jun 28 16:26:11 UTC 2007


Christopher Aillon wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Christopher Aillon wrote:
>>> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>> Christopher Aillon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That makes no sense.  Are you seriously telling me that you ratify 
>>>>> changes that may be sub-par with the intent that they can be changed? 
>>>>
>>>> No but policies can be ratified with the understanding that they are 
>>>> not written in stone.
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you need to revise your ratification process (or lack 
>>>>> thereof) before people should feel comfortable following anything 
>>>>> that gets "voted" on.
>>>>
>>>> That's a FESCo decision that I am not involved with.
>>>
>>> I wonder if I'm the only person that got the impression you were 
>>> invovled with it based on your comments.  Don't try to strongarm 
>>> people into following _draft_ policies based on the fact that you 
>>> personally _expect_ it to be ratified.
>>
>> I am not personally involved with it. The policy is mostly documenting 
>> the process that we have followed even in the previous release so I do 
>> expect maintainers to take an effort to describe what the plans are.
> 
> This is not a big enough change to warrant that IMO though.  It won't be 
> any more newsworthy than any other firefox release.  It will be done 
> sooner rather than later.  Probably by next week, although having to 
> send my status updates on a tiny project like this isn't helping me get 
> it done faster.

This goes to the heart of the problem. You don't consider the changes 
important but it is. Firefox related changes are BIG news. How many 
times were we asked when Firefox 2 was going to be in Fedora Core 6?  I 
must have answered it atleast half a dozen times. So many that I had to 
write down a explanation on why and point users from several places to 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Firefox2.

I also remember seeing posts in this list including the one which 
started this discussion and other places asking about XULRunner. I 
myself have done in fedora-maintainers list before. XULRunner is going 
to affect about 50 applications in Fedora which uses Firefox for the 
browser engine. We are likely the first distribution to do so and hence 
would require explicit testing. I think that makes it a pretty major 
change.

Rahul




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