The community has lost control... (Was: Re: Don't put new packages through updates-testing)

Thorsten Leemhuis fedora at
Sun Jun 3 13:36:28 UTC 2007

On 03.06.2007 15:17, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Sunday 03 June 2007 02:48:35 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> Well, see all those discussion that happened when ACLs were added, kjoi
>> introduced, the freezes were introduced and bodi put in place. Sure,
>> there are always discussions, but all those were quite worse and there
>> was a lot of confusion afaics... Don't read fedora-maintainers for a
>> week and suddenly you are not aware of how to build or push a package.
> So without reading the mailing list for maintainers,

A low-traffic fedora-maintainers-announce was requested multiple times
as some contributors mentioned that fedora-maintainers is to noisy for
them. Some Red-Hat-engineers blocked that so long and hard that people
that wanted it got frustrated and didn't drive that idea further in the
past months.

Like it or not, but for some people fedora-maintainers has to much
traffic; so they just skim over it and easily miss important announcements.

> [...]

BTW, we are getting side-tracked. I didn't want to bring the
fedora-maintainers-announce stuff into the game. I meant the lack of
proper docs, rules and procedure for the start of some of those
techniques needed for the merge as the problem.


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