The updates firehose

Ralf Corsepius rc040203 at
Mon Jun 11 17:13:11 UTC 2007

On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 12:14 -0400, Will Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 08:31 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Monday 11 June 2007 01:08:40 Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > > So, this is something I'd *love* to have - some sort of stats on
> > > how many people have installed package X; useful for doing checks
> > > to see what should or shouldn't be on the DVDs, and so on. I know
> > > the mugshot stats exist, but that's not the same.
> > 
> > And how thrown off is this data by people who install Everything, or all in a 
> > group but never use the data?  More important than 'how many people installed 
> > package X' is perhaps "how many people installed package X that wasn't on the 
> > media" and even more importantly "how many people launched package X and what 
> > was X's deps?".
> Debian's popcon[0] utility does almost exactly that. This would 
> make a nice counterpart to smolt - where smolt tracks what hardware
> people are using, popcon tracks what *software* they're using. It's all
> proven, open-source stuff - adding this as a feature for F8 wouldn't be
> hard.
> On the other hand, I don't want to duplicate code. Since we're already
> talking about more Mugshot-y stuff in F8[1], maybe it makes sense to
> extend the Mugshot application info-gathering backend to work more like
> popcon. Perhaps it would need to be split out from Mugshot so people who
> don't care about Mugshot can still opt to collect and submit stats.
> Thoughts?

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