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Re: Fedora and Cross Compiling

On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 15:42 -0600, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> Yep, we've been through this a few times.  Having discussed this with 
> you a number of times before, I know where you're coming from.  We 
> really should be able to build gcc without having to build parts of 
> glibc in the process. 

Do we _actually_ need to build parts of glibc? Could we not get away
with a fake DSO which just provides the few symbols libgcc uses?

Or do we even need to build the dynamic libgcc _with_ the compiler at

>  That said, this is really only an exercise in bootstrapping which
> doesn't happen very often.

Actually it happens for me every time I build a cross-compiler.
But perhaps it doesn't _need_ to; you're right.

> Let us, for example, pretend we're just discussing cross compilation for 
> existing archs. 

That's a very good place to start. Especially if you realise that it
doesn't _really_ restrict us to 'existing architectures' -- it restricts
us to those architectures for which we can cobble together 'native'
packages for gcc, etc. Which is actually not much of a restriction at

>  Because of the iterative nature of these builds, 
> everything we need is already there to build the cross compiler.  We 
> have kernel headers and we have a glibc rpm for the target arch.  All 
> that we need in some machinery to pull in files from a different arch 
> and extract them into a sys-root.

That would be an interesting answer, yes. It only solves the _build_
part of the problem though. The packaging side remains -- you'll want to
end up a cross-compiler package for the host arch, but libgcc etc. for
the target.

RPM doesn't currently let you spit out even .noarch.rpm and $ARCH.rpm
simultaneously -- to build both i686-linux-gnu-gcc-$V-$R.ppc.rpm and
libgcc-$V-$R.i386.rpm you'll almost certainly need a separate rpmbuild
run _anyway_. So how will we handle that?

> As gcc matures, it's likely that the libgcc problem will go away by it 
> being split out.  At that time, the chicken/egg problem will be solved 
> without having to resort to clever hacks.

I think we need to accelerate that rather than waiting for it.

Binutils at least should be relatively easy. Here's a patch against
binutils/F-7 which lets me:
  make DIST_DEFINES='--define "binutils_target i686-linux-gnu"' ppc

Even for this we have build system questions... how best to build it for
each target architecture we want?

Index: binutils.spec
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/binutils/F-7/binutils.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.115
diff -u -p -r1.115 binutils.spec
--- binutils.spec	14 Apr 2007 15:21:02 -0000	1.115
+++ binutils.spec	12 Jun 2007 15:30:56 -0000
@@ -1,5 +1,13 @@
+%if "%{?binutils_target}" == ""
+%define binutils_target %{_target_platform}
+%define isnative 1
+%define cross %{binutils_target}-
+%define isnative 0
 Summary: A GNU collection of binary utilities.
-Name: binutils
+Name: %{?cross}binutils
 Release: 4
 License: GPL
@@ -51,7 +59,7 @@ have a stable ABI.  Developers starting 
 to consider using libelf instead of BFD.
-%setup -q
+%setup -q -n binutils-%{version}
 %patch1 -p0 -b .ltconfig-multilib~
 %patch2 -p0 -b .ppc64-pie~
 %patch3 -p0 -b .place-orphan~
@@ -66,7 +74,7 @@ to consider using libelf instead of BFD.
 %patch8 -p0 -b .osabi~
 %patch9 -p0 -b .rh235747~
-# On ppc64 we might use 64K pages
+# On ppc64 we might use 64KiB pages
 sed -i -e '/#define.*ELF_COMMONPAGESIZE/s/0x1000$/0x10000/' bfd/elf*ppc.c
 # LTP sucks
 perl -pi -e 's/i\[3-7\]86/i[34567]86/g' */conf*
@@ -78,24 +86,36 @@ sed -i -e 's/^libbfd_la_LDFLAGS = /&-Wl,
 sed -i -e 's/^libopcodes_la_LDFLAGS = /&-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions /' opcodes/Makefile.{am,in}
 touch */configure
+sed -i -e 's/^ PACKAGE=/ PACKAGE=%{?cross}/' */configure
-mkdir build-%{_target_platform}
-cd build-%{_target_platform}
+mkdir build-%{binutils_target}
+cd build-%{binutils_target}
-%ifarch sparc ppc s390
-%ifarch ia64
+case %{binutils_target} in
+    sparc*|ppc*|s390*)
+	CARGS=--enable-64-bit-bfd
+	;;
+    ia64*)
+        CARGS=--enable-targets=i386-linux
+	;;
+%if %isnative
+   SHAREDARGS=--enable-shared
+   TARGET=%{binutils_target}
+   SHAREDARGS=--disable-shared
+   TARGET="--target %{binutils_target} --host %{_target_platform}"
+   SYSROOT="--with-sysroot=/usr/%{binutils_target}"
 CC="gcc -L`pwd`/bfd/.libs/" CFLAGS="${CFLAGS:-%optflags}" ../configure \
-  %{_target_platform} --prefix=%{_prefix} --exec-prefix=%{_exec_prefix} \
+  $TARGET --prefix=%{_prefix} --exec-prefix=%{_exec_prefix} \
   --bindir=%{_bindir} --sbindir=%{_sbindir} --sysconfdir=%{_sysconfdir} \
   --datadir=%{_datadir} --includedir=%{_includedir} --libdir=%{_libdir} \
   --libexecdir=%{_libexecdir} --localstatedir=%{_localstatedir} \
   --sharedstatedir=%{_sharedstatedir} --mandir=%{_mandir} \
-  --infodir=%{_infodir} --enable-shared $CARGS --disable-werror
+  --infodir=%{_infodir} $SHAREDARGS $CARGS --disable-werror $SYSROOT
 make %{_smp_mflags} tooldir=%{_prefix} all
 make %{_smp_mflags} tooldir=%{_prefix} info
 make -k check < /dev/null > check.log 2>&1 || :
@@ -107,8 +127,9 @@ cd ..
 rm -rf %{buildroot}
 mkdir -p %{buildroot}%{_prefix}
-cd build-%{_target_platform}
+cd build-%{binutils_target}
+%if %isnative
 make prefix=%{buildroot}%{_prefix} infodir=%{buildroot}%{_infodir} install-info
 gzip -q9f %{buildroot}%{_infodir}/*.info*
@@ -130,10 +151,6 @@ rm -f %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/%{_lib}/lib
 # Remove libtool files, which reference the .so libs
 rm -f %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/%{_lib}/lib{bfd,opcodes}.la
-# This one comes from gcc
-rm -f %{buildroot}%{_infodir}/dir
-rm -rf %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/%{_target_platform}
 %ifarch %{ix86} x86_64 ppc ppc64 s390 s390x sparc sparc64
 sed -i -e '/^#include "ansidecl.h"/{p;s~^.*$~#include <bits/wordsize.h>~;}' \
 %ifarch %{ix86} x86_64
@@ -151,22 +168,36 @@ sed -i -e '/^#include "ansidecl.h"/{p;s~
 touch -r ../bfd/bfd-in2.h %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/include/bfd.h
+%else # native
+# For cross-binutils we drop the documentation.
+rm -rf %{buildroot}%{_infodir}
+#rm -rf %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/share/locale
+#rm -rf %{buildroot}%{_mandir}
+rm -rf %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/%{_lib}/libiberty.a
+%endif # native
+# This one comes from gcc
+rm -f %{buildroot}%{_infodir}/dir
+rm -rf %{buildroot}%{_prefix}/%{binutils_target}
 cd ..
-%find_lang binutils
-%find_lang opcodes
-%find_lang bfd
-%find_lang gas
-%find_lang ld
-%find_lang gprof
-cat opcodes.lang >> binutils.lang
-cat bfd.lang >> binutils.lang
-cat gas.lang >> binutils.lang
-cat ld.lang >> binutils.lang
-cat gprof.lang >> binutils.lang
+%find_lang %{?cross}binutils
+%find_lang %{?cross}opcodes
+%find_lang %{?cross}bfd
+%find_lang %{?cross}gas
+%find_lang %{?cross}ld
+%find_lang %{?cross}gprof
+cat %{?cross}opcodes.lang >> %{?cross}binutils.lang
+cat %{?cross}bfd.lang >> %{?cross}binutils.lang
+cat %{?cross}gas.lang >> %{?cross}binutils.lang
+cat %{?cross}ld.lang >> %{?cross}binutils.lang
+cat %{?cross}gprof.lang >> %{?cross}binutils.lang
 rm -rf %{buildroot}
+%if %isnative
 /sbin/install-info --info-dir=%{_infodir} %{_infodir}/as.info.gz
@@ -197,12 +228,14 @@ exit 0
 if [ $1 = 0 ] ;then
   /sbin/install-info --delete --info-dir=%{_infodir} %{_infodir}/bfd.info.gz || :
+%endif # native
-%files -f binutils.lang
+%files -f %{?cross}binutils.lang
 %doc README
+%if %isnative
@@ -212,6 +245,7 @@ fi
+%endif # native
 * Sat Apr 14 2007 Jakub Jelinek <jakub redhat com>


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