Which unresolved bugs block a release?

Hans de Goede j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl
Thu Mar 22 18:16:06 UTC 2007


Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 19:00 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> On Thursday 22 March 2007 12:29:42 John Poelstra wrote:
>>>> Has the project discussed or determined how we will:
>>>> 1) Close out the approximately 7,000+ open bugs?
>>>> 2) Handle future releases in a way that the backlog doesn't get so high?
>>> Do you have any ideas?  You're part of the projet.
>>>
>>>
>> This is something which has amazed / annoyed me too, I've tried several times 
>> to start a community effort to something about this metric, but sofar with 
>> little success.
>>
>> These bugs fall into 2 categories:
>> 1) Bugs which are simply being ignored by @redhat.com people who need to be hit
>>     with the cluebat (repeatedly)
> 
> Don't make statements like that.  They aren't helpful in any manner.
> You cannot claim that they are intentionally ignoring them.  Hitting
> people with the "update your bugs" cluebat that have a massive amount of
> bugs simply does not work and does not help solve the problem.
> 
 >> 2) Really really hard bugs (think xorg / kernel / hal /mkinitrd)

I have a different opinion and experience on this, I deliberately created 2 
categories. The people with lots of bugs generally have bugs that fall into 
category 2 and despite the large number of these bugs they have, they respond 
more often to bugs of mine then people with packages with mainly category 1 bugs.

Wether you like it or not, there are some people both in FC and FE, who do a 
bad job of responding to bugs. This is something which needs to be addressed, 
covering this with the blanket of love is not going to help!

>>
>> Most likely a lot of 1) bugs are already solved but never got closed / 
>> retested, others should be taken upstream (and thus closed in Fedora BZ), etc.
> 
> If a lot of 1) bugs are already solved, anyone within the 'fedorabugs'
> group can act as a proxy to close them out.  Team effort would be a very
> good thing I think.
> 

Agreed, as said I've tried to start a team / group effort on this already 
several times, do you want to try this one more time together with me? Maybe 
with combined forces we have more luck.

Regards,

Hans




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