pup: boon or curse? quicker updates or slower updates?

Thorsten Leemhuis fedora at leemhuis.info
Fri Mar 9 07:59:53 UTC 2007


On 09.03.2007 08:27, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray wrote:
>> On most machines, I just removed pup and yum-updatesd. Go figure.
> +1.
> I do not use pup, and switched off yum-updatesd.

So do/did I -- one reason was the slow start up of yum-updatesd 
(#220614), that slowed down the boot-process on my laptop quite a lot.

> [...] and the fact that it locks up yum is an added problem.

A really annoying one if you ask me -- would it be possible that command 
line yum simply talks to yum-updatesd via d-bus and says "hey, 
yum-updatesd background task, the users wants to do something 
interactively now which is way more important then your business -- so 
quickly go sleeping for a while! (read: f... off)"?

Just for completeness: I'd use yum-updatesd if both problems mentioned 
above would get fixed. That way I'd get notified via pup about pending 
updates. I'd probably still would not use pup itself, as it always asks 
for the root password -- it's way easier for me to call "sudo yum 
update"(¹).

And, BTW, if we're doing pup/yum-updatesd bashing here then lets do it 
for real (sorry jeremy (²)): I'm one of those 56 people in the CC list 
of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212507
as I hit that bug on one of my machines, too. That bug is quite annoying 
and harmful. Jeremy, can I as a ordinary users without much programming 
skills help you somehow to get it resolved?

CU
thl

(¹) -- there is a way to configure consolehelper to not ask me for the 
root password (aka sudo like functionality), but I never found time to 
figure it out. Is that stuff documented/described somewhere properly in 
a step-by-step-guide-for-dummies-like-thl somewhere?

(²) -- as I mentioned already on fedora-advisory-list: jeremy does a 
great job, but we could need some more jeremy's afaics. Yes, other rh 
and community developers do a great job, too, but a lot of (read: to 
much) serious stuff in fedora-land afaics depends on jeremy -- but his 
days afaics also have only 24 hours and he needs a chance for a real 
life, too ;-)




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