hplip: hp-toolbox advertising?
Kevin Kofler
kevin.kofler at chello.at
Tue Mar 27 20:12:00 UTC 2007
David Zeuthen <david <at> fubar.dk> writes:
> - Provide their own UI for using the device; just provide the drivers,
> thank you very much; we don't really need foreign tools to make this
> harder on the users. Bad.
And we (users of HP printers) are supposed to check the ink levels, clean the
cartridges etc. how then? Where's the non-"foreign" (i.e. non-vendor) tools to
handle this? Oh wait, there aren't any...
> - All the HP stuff, since there is a lot of it, pulls in Qt
So what? How is it better if it pulls in GTK+ instead? Not all the world uses
GNOME... Now they couldn't provide a GUI tool at all, but then see the above
paragraph for why that would be a bad idea.
> Instead, for example, HP should get their scanner drivers into the SANE
> project. My personal opinion is that with HPLip, HP is paying lip
> service to the Linux community by treating us as if we were Windows
> where this sort of "let's throw lots of vendor-specific tools and UI
> crap at the user" is common.
My personal opinion is that thanks to hplip, HP printers are the ones which
support Free Software the best.
> HP: please try to be a good open source citizen.
Sure, about the daemon, the user-space vfat driver etc., the implementation of
hplip could be less of a mess, but it's all vendor-provided GPL code! There
aren't many vendors doing that. So calling HP "not a good open source citizen"
just because their GPL code doesn't fit your standards of quality is really
unfair IMHO.
As for the actual issue in this thread, I have a suggestion: what about making
hp-toolbox a separate subpackage of hplip, which is not installed by default,
but which (when installed) comes with a menu item? That would solve both
the "vendor-specific menu item forced on everyone" and the "hplip requires
PyQt" issues.
Kevin Kofler
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