F7 Zope package

David G. Mackay mackay_d at bellsouth.net
Mon May 7 18:41:54 UTC 2007

On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 20:12 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le lundi 07 mai 2007 à 13:01 -0500, David G. Mackay a écrit :
> > Well, I'd note that Fedora needs good packages a LOT more than the good
> > packages need Fedora.  If Fedora wants to keep and/or build mind share,
> > then they might want to evaluate the effort to user satisfaction ratio
> > again.
> Bad engineering does not make good packages.
> Bad packages do not make satisfied users.
> The train wreck is 100% due to Zope people losing touch with the
> evolution of their technical environment and hoping it would stop just
> for them.

Out of curiosity, why are the Zope developers responsible for the fact
that python breaks compatibility with their (python's) APIs from release
to release?

> Fedora inclusion process is fast, zope will be back as soon as the zope
> devs get their stuff in shape again.

So, being on the bleeding edge is more important than functionality to
Fedora?  The only problem with Zope's engineering decisions here is that
they're tightly integrated to python, and the python folks don't seem to
worry overly much about backward compatibility at that level of


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