What's with Nautilus?

J French me at semitekie.com
Sat May 26 07:13:31 UTC 2007

David Timms wrote:
 > J French wrote:
 > ...
 >> Next up - Nautilus again: I do A LOT of development in quite a few 
different languages. If I try to just double click, for instance, an sql 
dump, I get errors like "this is a VHDL document and requires that 
extension". Or, if I open a php script that happens to contain only 
HTML, I get "this looks like HTML rather than PHP". Why does Nautilus 
care? These are raw text files, which gedit is perfectly capable of 
handling. In fact, should you attempt to open a binary file through 
gedit (the only time this should matter), gedit will kindly tell you as 
much. Am I really expected to go through everyone's files and assign the 
extensions Nautilus expects just to get around having to go Open With 
and, sometimes even have to choose Text Editor from "Other 
Applications"? I can understand this behavior for binary files, but 
that's not what I'm talking about here.
 > Also, gedit will reject many of the text config file in /etc/** I 
think because file provides the type incorrectly.
 > I have definitely noticed this annoyance in fedora 6.
 > How can I {or better we=fedora} make Gedit the default for pure text 
files whenever there is not a more specific handler ?
 > How can we make right-click "Open in gedit" available on every file ?
 > How can we make right-click "Open in ghex" available on every file ?
 > How can we make gedit open files that might contain some stray 
non-text characters, but are essentially text files ?
 > I can understand code has been tidied up to not allow what you could 
previously do, but these were very useful time-saving features.
 > DaveT.
Yes, this annoyance does indeed exist in FC6 - the delete issue and 
constant X crashing just had me annoyed enough to bring this up as well. 
(there are already bug reports on the crashing issues so I didn't 
mention them).

I think the right idea would be to finish out the "Preferred 
Applications" tool to include everything rather than just web browser, 
email client and terminal program. I'm somewhat surprised this hasn't 
been done yet as it's been complained about ever since FC3 (that I know 
of). On top of that, Nautilus should be either configured to just open 
the file in whichever app matches it's metadata or at least give the 
user the very same notice with a list of applications it thinks are 
suitable for opening the file (which would at least save some clicks). 
Note that the first option of just opening the file would dictate (from 
a usability standpoint) that the preferred applications tool be finished 
out to include all file types (like wind blows "folder options > file 
types" dialog).

Aside from that, I agree that users should have those right-click 
options as well - regardless of anything else done.

Dan Young Wrote:
 > Under Nautilus, if you try to remove items (move them to the trash or
 > hit Delete with them selected) that are on an NFS drive, you get an
 > error "Not on the same filesystem".

 >My files deleted from Nautilus on an NFS-mounted /home go into ~/.Trash.
 >Works For Me.

Your uname -ri? This was 6.93 x86_64 if that matters. However, I can't 
see why the platform should have any bearing on the subject at hand. 
Also, perhaps it's only working properly for nfs mounts under /home - my 
systems are all mounted under a dedicated fs with something like:
If they weren't, I'd have a nightmare managing them. This shouldn't 
matter either.

I've since downgraded back to FC6 on this machine - I was simply 
spending too much time dinking around with all of this in between 
constant, random X crashes. I really don't think this is going to be 
stable within 6 days, but who knows. Right now, it's certainly unfit for 
any real use other than development of the system itself. If I have time 
later this weekend I'll install it on another 64 bit system and a 32 bit 
system and play around with it some.


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