F7 Zope package

Jonathan Steffan jon at fedoraunity.org
Sun May 6 00:09:38 UTC 2007

David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 19:48 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> Jeremy Katz schrieb:
>>> On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 10:16 -0500, David G. Mackay wrote:
>>>> It was nice to see that zope is one of the packages available for
>>>> installation in F7.  Unfortunately, the package won't work on F7
>>>> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=238809). The
>>>> maintainer that received the bug report suggested that I make some noise
>>>> on the devel list, so here I am.  The problem is that the zope version
>>>> packaged for F7 won't run with python 2.5.x 
> So? Surely it's the rôle of the Fedora package maintainer to _make_ it
> work with Fedora? Is the package maintainer AWOL?

I'm not AWOL and I don't think it is my job to fix upstream code.

Ok, I will state yet again; This is not a packaging issue. This is an 
issue of including python 2.4 support in Fedora 7 or not. Just because I 
am maintaining the packages, does this mean it is a requirement I work 
upstream to fix the many things that need to be done to even *begin* to 
support python 2.5? No, I am just the packager. There are *technical* 
reasons Zope will not run on python 2.5 and it is a lot more then it 
seems you think.

To try to make this more a complete discussion (even though I have 
already seen this posted): http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/Zope3UsingPython25

Please, I request that anyone that feels this is my fault and I am not a 
capable package maintain read the above... and I mean all of it. To the 
best of my knowledge this also shows there will never be any support for 
python 2.5 in the Zope 2 branch; at least not any time soon. I don't 
know when Plone is going to target Zope 3 but I get the feeling it is no 
time soon. This means that even if we get Zope 3 support in Fedora 7 
using python 2.5 all the plone users will be out of luck.
>> Shipping Zope in Fedora 5 and Fedora 6 and excluding it in Fedora 7 just
>> looks so bad to out the outside and created problems for out users. I'd
>> really would like to avoid that.

As would I.

> Yes, we should avoid getting into a situation where that can happen.
> We need to make sure we have active and capable package maintainers for
> the packages we ship.
I am active. Please note the current pacakges are Zope 2.9.7 and Plone 
2.5.2, the most current stable/recommended versions that run on python 
2.4. I promptly push out updates. Please check these things before you 
smear active members of the community.

Jonathan Steffan

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