F8 is getting *really* sysadmin-hostile
John Poelstra
poelstra at redhat.com
Thu Nov 15 17:30:00 UTC 2007
Olivier Galibert said the following on 11/15/2007 08:01 AM Pacific Time:
> Bug #134886 is still there since fedora core 3 times. It means that
> NetworkManager will happily shutdown the interfaces, ignore any
> settings you've put in anaconda and wipe out /etc/resolv.conf if you
> happen not to use dhcp. Like in a lab, where desktops and servers
> tend not to wander around so much and dhcp is used only for laptops.
>
> Fedora 8 adds another level to the fun:
>
> - NetworkManager is started at gdm time. Which means that your
> anaconda settings are ignored (and the DNS settings *erased*) as soon
> as the login interface appears.
>
> - service network restart doesn't work, because NM detects it and
> stomps all over it
first:
service NetworkManager stop
> - you can't just chkconfig NM out. It looks like it's started by
> gnome itself, or maybe hal, so one has to study their "my wheel is
> better than your wheel" startup configuration. Or maybe not. Dunno
> really.
chkconfig --del NetworkManager
> - if you try to yum remove it, you lose evolution,
> krb5-auth-dialog, libpurple, nautilus-sendto and pidgin.
>
I've been thinking the same thing...you also lose liferea and pidgin which seems totally silly too!
Which component(s) should a bug be filed against?
# yum remove NetworkManager
<cut>
Dependencies Resolved
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Package Arch Version Repository Size
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Removing:
NetworkManager x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 installed 2.2 M
NetworkManager i386 1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 installed 2.2 M
Removing for dependencies:
NetworkManager-glib i386 1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 installed 98 k
NetworkManager-glib x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 installed 103 k
NetworkManager-gnome x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 installed 524 k
NetworkManager-openvpn i386 1:0.7.0-2.svn3047.fc8 installed 477 k
NetworkManager-openvpn x86_64 1:0.7.0-2.svn3047.fc8 installed 487 k
NetworkManager-vpnc x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.4.svn3030.fc8 installed 318 k
NetworkManager-vpnc i386 1:0.7.0-0.4.svn3030.fc8 installed 307 k
libpurple x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc8 installed 18 M
liferea x86_64 1.2.23-5.fc8 installed 1.9 M
nautilus-sendto x86_64 0.12-3.fc8 installed 276 k
pidgin x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc8 installed 2.2 M
Transaction Summary
=============================================================================
Install 0 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 13 Package(s)
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