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Re: F8 is getting *really* sysadmin-hostile

Olivier Galibert said the following on 11/15/2007 08:01 AM Pacific Time:
Bug #134886 is still there since fedora core 3 times.  It means that
NetworkManager will happily shutdown the interfaces, ignore any
settings you've put in anaconda and wipe out /etc/resolv.conf if you
happen not to use dhcp.  Like in a lab, where desktops and servers
tend not to wander around so much and dhcp is used only for laptops.

Fedora 8 adds another level to the fun:

- NetworkManager is started at gdm time.  Which means that your
  anaconda settings are ignored (and the DNS settings *erased*) as soon
  as the login interface appears.

- service network restart doesn't work, because NM detects it and
  stomps all over it

service NetworkManager stop

- you can't just chkconfig NM out.  It looks like it's started by
  gnome itself, or maybe hal, so one has to study their "my wheel is
  better than your wheel" startup configuration.  Or maybe not.  Dunno

chkconfig --del NetworkManager

- if you try to yum remove it, you lose evolution,
  krb5-auth-dialog, libpurple, nautilus-sendto and pidgin.

I've been thinking the same thing...you also lose liferea and pidgin which seems totally silly too!

Which component(s) should a bug be filed against?

# yum remove NetworkManager


Dependencies Resolved

Package Arch Version Repository Size =============================================================================
NetworkManager          x86_64     1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed         2.2 M
NetworkManager          i386       1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed         2.2 M
Removing for dependencies:
NetworkManager-glib     i386       1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed          98 k
NetworkManager-glib     x86_64     1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed         103 k
NetworkManager-gnome    x86_64     1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed         524 k
NetworkManager-openvpn  i386       1:0.7.0-2.svn3047.fc8  installed         477 k
NetworkManager-openvpn  x86_64     1:0.7.0-2.svn3047.fc8  installed         487 k
NetworkManager-vpnc     x86_64     1:0.7.0-0.4.svn3030.fc8  installed         318 k
NetworkManager-vpnc     i386       1:0.7.0-0.4.svn3030.fc8  installed         307 k
libpurple               x86_64     2.2.2-1.fc8      installed          18 M
liferea                 x86_64     1.2.23-5.fc8     installed         1.9 M
nautilus-sendto         x86_64     0.12-3.fc8       installed         276 k
pidgin                  x86_64     2.2.2-1.fc8      installed         2.2 M

Transaction Summary
Install 0 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 13 Package(s) Is this ok [y/N]:

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