better install experience

Tom "spot" Callaway tcallawa at redhat.com
Wed Oct 10 20:23:15 UTC 2007


On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 22:08 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 10.10.2007 21:53, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 15:53 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> >> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> >>>> If we want to improve the user experience, it would be great if anaconda
> >>>> offered to do the resize.  Even for an experienced user, who wants to d/l +
> >>>> burn >1 cd/dvd?
> >>> Anaconda doesn't have any ntfs support yet. We're looking at that for
> >>> F9.
> >>> The F-8 live-cd might have the ntfsutils, but I don't know.
> >> Wasn't NTFS a patent issue? Though I do not see it anymore on
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems
> > Short answer: No.
> > Long answer: If something (anything) in Fedora infringes a patent that
> > you hold, please let me know the specifics (which patent, which
> > software, etc), and we will address it.
> 
> Is there a middle-sized answer maybe that might explain why
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=65749
> still wasn't fixed? The bug is about this fact:
> 
> $ grep NTFS /boot/config-2.6.23-0.217.rc9.git1.fc8
> # CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
> 
> Sure, ntfs-3g is around -- but some people still prefer the in-kernel
> driver and it still gets downloaded from a well know 3rd party repo as
> kmod a lot.

I asked DaveJ not to enable the ntfs kmod.

1. It doesn't work as well as ntfs-3g.
1A. It doesn't have RW support.
2. It is unmaintained upstream.
3. mount.ntfs points to ntfs-3g in Fedora. So, even if someone gets the
ntfs.ko in place, they're still probably using ntfs-3g.

~spot




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