KDE logout options with F8

[lexual]

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> lexual <floss <at> lex.hider.name> writes:
>   
>> 1) Isn't it a bug that shutdown/hibernate options aren't available in 
>> kde using gdm?
>>     
>
> It is, it has been fixed now.
>
>   
<monty burns>Excellllent!</monty burns>
>> 2) Isn't the issue not whether gdm or kdm gets installed (kdm will also 
>> be installed with kde desktop group), but which one is set to run on 
>> booting.
>>     
>
> Yes. But not installing GDM in the first place would make booting do the right 
> thing automatically, so that would be one way to do it.
>
>   
>> 3) I agree that avoiding xdm is a good idea.
>>     
>
> Are you suggesting throwing out all the lightweight WMs too? How's XDM any 
> different?
>
>   
No. There is a difference between kicking something out of the archive, 
and installing it by default.
>> 4) If we change so that user ticking kde group install get kdm on boot, 
>> what happens if user has ticked both gnome and kde. It's perfectly 
>> legitimate to have a computer where different users use gnome, kde, 
>> xfce, etc. So GNOME/KDE desktop installation isn't always an either or 
>> option. They're not mutually exclusive.
>>     
>
> Then they get a global default, probably GDM. (It's what happens now if both 
> GDM and KDM are installed, which is part of what causes this issue, the other 
> part being that GDM is always installed by default.)
>
>   
Disclaimer: I'm a Fedora newbie, and clueless to how much of it works.
Here's my idea.

Could this be fixed in comps.xml ?
e.g. the british language support group has conditional requires like 
the following:

<packagelist>
      <packagereq type="conditional" 
requires="kdelibs">kde-i18n-British</packag
ereq>
      <packagereq type="conditional" 
requires="koffice-core">koffice-langpack-en
_GB</packagereq>
    </packagelist>

I think I'm right in writing that the only desktop option on DVD are 
gnome & kde (don't think xfce is on there).
So could the gdm dependency in base-x group be a conditional one on 
having gnome installed?
>> Is it a kdebase or gdm bug that the shutdown options aren't available 
>> from a kde session with gdm as manager?
>>     
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> GDM made a change which broke KDE, Bill Nottingham has patched kdebase to match 
> the new GDM now.
>
>         Kevin Kofler
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